Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Ghost sign revealed on St Ann's / Salisbury Roads (soon to be organic shop & wine bar)
This old Ghost Sign is on what used to be Andreas Michli's greengrocer that stood empty for many years. Apparently it's going to be an organic shop and wine bar.
Nice sign showing an old, presumably Jewish -owned business.
Maybe Hugh knows the background?
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Nice capture.
Quick run-though.
When first built, the addresses of these four premises on the corner of Salisbury and St Ann's Roads were 1 to 4 Salisbury Parade (as opposed to Salisbury Promenade for the shops between present day Tesco and Selale on Green Lanes, a name those premises retain to this day). Number 4 became 33 Salisbury Road. Number 3 became 405 St Ann's Road, Number 2, 407 St Ann's Road and Number 1, 409 St Ann's Road.
The first tenant in 1901 was a "fried fish shop" run by Mrs. Mary Cecilia Cookson at number 3. By 1903, she'd been joined by Henry Albert Foster an oil and cellarman at Number 4. At Number 2 was William Hunting, greengrocer and Henry Pope and sons, jobmaster at Number 1. Advertisements at the start of the century gave their address as "Salisbury Stables". I assume that this is now what is teh garage behind the pub. (A jobmaster supplied carriages, horses and drivers for hire). So, perhpas they had an office on Salisbury Parade with Salisbury Stables as the centre of operations.
By 1906 Broadhurst & Co, wholesale blouse manufacturers (no, I didn't see that one coming either!) had arrived at Number 4. They regularly advertised for staff, as in the ad below in the Holloway Press in March 1906. They stayed till at least 1939.
Twenty years later, the occupants were:
4 H. Broadhurst & Co. wholesale blouse manufacturers
3 A. T. Redmond & Son, printers
2 Tom Jackson , greengrocer
1 Henry Lloyd, boot maker
H. Caplin arrived in the late 1940s and stayed until 1963.
Michli arrived in Harringay in 1970 or 71 and started out at at 41 Avondale Road, (the northwest corner of Avondale and Conway Roads). By 1974, he'd opened the shop at 33 Salisbury Road. Within a few years, he'd also taken on the premises next door at 405 St Ann's Road. He also kept on the Avondale premises till the mid-eighties (and perhaps long after).
Hope that helps.
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Permalink Reply by James Ingram on
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Permalink Reply by joyce boston on
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Wow that's bought back memories. I remember it as a glazier. Not sure but I think it was a cafe at some point.
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Same here Joyce.......i remember it as a glaziers from 1950-70 time. And I think the shop to the right was the cafe.
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It’s a beautifully painted sign and great that it was preserved by being covered up rather than damaged or ruined with new signage just slapped directly on top. Did Andreas actually trade from Avondale Road? I moved in nearby in 1988, but can’t remember if it was still a shop before the later flat conversion. (And Hugh, of course, previously commented on the erroneous suggestion, that I think I remember from the Location, Location, Location team, that it had been a post office, which it wasn’t.)
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Whilst I don't remember it personally, Don, to the best of my knowledge he did. Besides retaining the premises for a few years, how long he kept actually trading from there after setting up on Salisbury / St Ann's, I don't know.
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Permalink Reply by Christine Yates on
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Yes it was a cafe at one point, I remember it from being a tiny child. Also the very last unit along from there next to Salisbury mansions was a tiny florist shop from the late 60s to early 70s.
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Christine, I remember that shop as being a glaziers (from my time '50-'70) and the cafe as being in shop to the right.
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Does anyone remember the cafe on the corner of Warwick Gardens and St Ann’s Road, which later became a betting shop in the early 70s. There was a dairy on the next corner that delivered milk to your door. Mr and Mrs Roberts owned it, then sold to ant and Mrs Richards, she was a really lovely German woman’s who would let me walk her dog. They sold up in about 1971 due to her bad health and moved to Brampton Road. The shop was bought by Mr and Mrs Carrol. On the opposite corner was a general hardware shop where you could also by paraffin by the gallon. I can still remember the smell. Mr and Mrs Mole and their boys lived at No 2 Kimberley gardens and they converted their garage space into a wool shop in 1967/68, it didn’t seem to last very long. It was called ‘the ball of Wool.
Bill and Grace owned the paper shop on the corner of Brampton Road, they had it from ‘64 to ‘71 and sold it to the Georgiou family. Sadly Mrs Georgiou became terminally ill with leukaemia, leaving her husband to cope. Such a sad time. I’m still in touch with George who became a very talented artist.
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Christine I remember that cafe on corner of Warwick/St Annes, think it was called 'Doll's Cafe' at least that was the name of the lady who ran it, Dolly/Doll, as far as I know. Passed it every day on way to school, Woodlands and then South Grove ('55-'64), but never ventured in until working a short spell at Oceana Laundry in summer of '65. I was a van boy and my driver introduced me to Doll's cafe, used to have " two of bread and dripping and mug of tea". She cut the bread about one inch thick and the lard was plastered on about quarter inch thick, salted for extra taste. Thick white mugs seemed to be about pint measures. She had great rapport with her customers but they knew who was in charge. Cos I was young and new to this environment I was a bit cheeky one day and she ripped into me and gave me a glare !! Ernie the driver advised me to "tread carefully son". I was very sheepish for next few visits but she knew I had learned my lesson and allowed me a smile. We went in 5 days a week for the exact same fayre before starting our rounds. I can't recall the other shop you mention. Sorry, I've gone on a bit !
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It would be lovely if the new owners not only kept this sign (as it was suggested they might be, on a parallel thread) but also as much of the structure, windows, etc, as possible, rather than doing a characterless refit and ripping out any remaining original features. Does anyone know if the plan’s actually for a wine bar or is it a coffee shop, as different people have written different things? (And thanks for the update on Avondale, Hugh.)
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