LTNs interim reviews and next steps

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Permalink Reply by AndrewAW1 on July 31, 2023 at 12:11

I was just trying to give a general impression of the numbers. Here are the actual numbers if you want them exact. You will see that on the boundary roads the numbers are sometimes up and sometimes down (or whatever description you want to use where some numbers have increased and some have decreased) and in the LTNs the majority are down but with a few outliers with increases.

Bruce Grove boundary roads:

And internal:

St Ann's Boundary:

St Ann's internal:

I'm not sure why you are so intent on disagreeing with me, the original post was based on the report, not my interpretation. You can see the numbers above and this is what it had to say on the West Green Road buses:

West Green Road & Philip Lane Corridor– Bus Journey Times
On the West Green Road and Philip Lane corridor, bus journey speeds in the eastbound direction have generally stayed within the pre-COVID range at or faster than 4min/km, although there have been several periods where speeds slowed to above 5min/km both before and after scheme introduction. It is a similar picture in the westbound direction with a spike to above 6min/km around scheme implementation before speeds again settled back down to around 5min/km.

Personally I'm not fully convinced by a number of aspects of the LTN or the report.

In the report they used January figures which is just a couple of months after the implementation. I would have thought it would make far more sense to give it more time to bed in and use figures from later in the year. They also disregarded the Vivacity cameras, which give constant counts, in favour of one week's count. There is no explanation on why that is.

On the LTN itself, I do think that a lot of the complaints were taking multiple issues (roadworks, lack of bus drivers, parked cars, etc) and attributing them all to the LTN. But I do still think that more needs to be done regarding Belmont Rd and West Green Rd. Taking HGVs off Belmont may help, I'd also like to see some removal of parking on West Green Rd to see if that speeds the bus journeys.

As can be seen from the data, there are some significant drops on boundary roads (St. Ann's Road, Philip Lane and Downhills Way for instance) but also some big increases such as Green Lanes and West Green Road.

Personally it has encouraged me to drive less. Times in the past when it's been raining and I might have just done a short journey in the car often aren't worth in. For longer journeys it probably still adds a bit of time sometimes but not particularly noticeable if it is part of a longer journey.

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