Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Another attempted rape - in Mattison Road early this morning
This happened near to my daughter's flat - she heard the victim's screams - a 20 year old girl coming back from a night out - at 7 a.m this morning. Police have ticker-taped the area.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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And this email has since been contradicted by residents posting on this thread that the attack happened outside their house, i.e. not in the passage.
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Permalink Reply by Caroline on
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As we are being pedantic:
1. The fact that people are describing something that happened outside their house doesn't mean that it wasn't in the passage. It seems to me that when most people talk about 'outside my house' they are referring to the area that they can see from their front windows not the area immediately adjacent to the front garden wall. For myself : I live adjacent to the passage, therefore something could happen both outside my house and in the passage.
2. I walk down the passage, most mornings, at about 7.15. I've never seen a policeman at this time. I rarely see anybody at all (and this morning there were fewer than usual). Personally I'm not bothered. This may be because I am extremely foolish; it may be because I always carry an attack alarm.
3. We don't know the 'facts' until we have the final court report. Reporting and commenting upon crime does not necessarily constitute scaremongering. We 'know' that the Sapphire unit is involved and frankly I think that that is enough information to assume that I need to be a little more vigilant. In the passage and walking down the road.
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Permalink Reply by Birdy_Too on
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Whether this happened on the street or in the passage is irrelevant, it's in our neighbourhood and could happen anywhere within it.
In the interest of balance, I have seen the police and loads of times walking up and down the passage and on the Ladder roads at dusk and in the morning - not that I frequent the passage at 5-7am often.
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I'm really sorry. I'm not trying to cause offense.
I feel very sorry for the passage sometimes. It gets a bad rap. Nobody defends it and I just know that anything said now will be remembered later even though it might be wrong (remember what the Met initially said about Jean Charles de Menezes?). I'd like to just leave the passage/location stuff out of it altogether.
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Permalink Reply by Mia Jeacock on
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I personally think everyone, especially women need to be EXTRA vigilant where ever they are walking and maybe avoiding dark and badly lit places / passages would be a good idea given the current turn of awful events.
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Reading this I am very pleased to see what a strong community there is. Great ideas/offers to help. Turning the situation around to avoid people feeling victimised is very important.
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Permalink Reply by Office of David Lammy MP on
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I just wanted to add my reply to the news of this disturbing attack in the early hours of yesterday morning. My thoughts are with the victim and those directly affected by the attack, but I understand the need for more information and join local residents in calling on the local police to take action to calm fears.
I was in touch with the police yesterday, and am asking the local Safer Neighbourhood Team to respond to concerns and commit to increasing early morning patrols in the light of recent attacks. I also think we need more public information on how to be safe, including where worried residents can access personal alarms and safety advice.
Nora and Nilgun's comments and suggestions are very welcome, I think a combination of sensible safety advice with a sense of community empowerment is the best way forward. I know Haringey have a strong record of combating hate crime and domestic violence, while this is slightly different, I think a programme of proactive initiatives as outlined by Nilgun could make a real difference.
As a community we need to come together and share information. This is no time for scaremongering, but local residents are rightly concerned that a pattern of attacks might be emerging and are looking to the local police for information and support.
While I have been in contact with the police, and have no doubt that this investigation is being pursued with due vigour by Haringey Police’s Operation Sapphire Team, I feel more could be done to reassure and communicate with local residents about what is going on. I hope the meeting tonight is well attended, and that a plan put into action to reassure everyone. I will be dropping the SNT Team an email to with my comments, and would be interested to hear other people's thoughts.
David Lammy
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This happened right outside my house.
I was asleep and thought that I had heard screaming but being a heavy sleeper I didn't properly wake up, and when I did just had a weird feeling that it was a dream.
Obviously the police have certain protocols to follow re. their investigations, and I think that generally they have a good presence in our neighbourhood but I just feel that the wider community needs to be made aware of this, police notifications on lamposts or something at least. They don't need to be specific enough as to incite fear or anything, just a heads-up is all.
Had I known about the attack two weeks ago I think I would have definitely woken up at the thought of hearing screaming, and the police may have had another account/description of events following.
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Permalink Reply by Alison P on
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I think Scott makes a really important point - that if people know about this they will be more aware of what is going on around them, and more likely to do something if they hear anything unusual.
Like everyone here I've found this so shocking - so very sad for the two women involved, and so depressing for those of us who live in the area. I do think there should be more information about it out there - if you aren't on this site and/or are not linked in to GRA/LSCP then it would be quite easy to know nothing about what is going on. That's clearly wrong because I suspect that some of the most vulnerable are probably the least likely to be aware of what has happened. Wouldn't this also possibly help the police with their enquiries too - I'd imagine they are only talking to people in the immediate vicinity, whereas there might be people living further away who might have useful information.
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Permalink Reply by OneWomanAndHerDog on
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Sorry OneWomanAndHerDog, I cant see a link in your post - could you repost? Thanks.
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