Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Bounds Green: Councillor re-selections and housing demolitions
In Bounds Green Ward in Haringey, the three sitting Labour Councillors, Ali Demirci, Joanna Christophides and Clare Bull, all support Council leader Claire Kober, and support the proposed Haringey Development Vehicle (HDV) deal with the property developer Lendlease.
Sadly, disgracefully, these Councillors support Lendlease and Haringey Council's plan to build 7,700 mainly private market homes in Wood Green, demolishing 205 housing association dwellings at Sky City, and 92 more at Page High; with Council estates to be knocked down at Page Grove, Durnsford Road and Tredegar Road, with partial demolition at Jack Barnett Way.
The Council has agreed that Lendlease does not need to prioritise a Right of Return for those whose homes are to be demolished.
The Lendlease and HDV Business Plans "do not allow for rehousing of housing association tenants".
The 1,281 new homes to be built in Wood Green in category 1 of the HDV do not include any social rent homes at all. Rising house prices and rents would drive local people out of the area.
This is in a borough where where many people have low and inconsistent earnings, and where 48% of all households have no savings at all, or are in debt.
Thankfully, there is a reselection taking place for all the Labour Party's candidates for the Council elections next year.
Next May, I look forward to voting for Labour candidates in Bounds Green Ward who support Jeremy Corbyn and who support socialist policies:
James Chiriyankandath, Yvonne Say and Pat Berryman.
These candidates, if elected, will refuse to sign any deal with Lendlease.
They will make excellent Councillors for Bounds Green.
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Permalink Reply by maggie on
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Of course they have policies. These are put before the local Labour Party membership before they are shortlisted, they then have to speak about their policies and are questioned on them at a Labour Party selection meeting before they are selected to stand as prospective councillor.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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At least you're honest about your lack of understanding. I'll clue you in if that's OK, they vote Labour on national issues. Nobody else comes close to providing both the facility of the #labourdoorstep AND a recognition of their issues.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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Thanks for giving this clear information, Paul.
People who are actually interested will have to skip over the noise.
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Permalink Reply by pamish on
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Ali Demerci and Joanna Christophides were both 'triggered' at the selection meeting last night, so will have to face a Q+A session and stand against other candidates next week. Clare Bull has stood down from the selection process so will not be a councillor from next May.
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one of the many planning meetings. She then toed the line when grainger presented their 'revised' plan without the penthouse. Did the whips have a word? Of course this could not be true as planning meetings are non-partisan....
These are single-issue selections for the party if not for the constituents. Many good councillors will get voted out or will stand down. They can't say they did not see this coming.
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Rumour that Barbara Blake has stood down. So of the four councillors Claire inserted into our democracy in Harringay in 2013, they're all gone now.
And this is just priceless:
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What's priceless about it?
The wannabe next leader of the council has taken to asking for disciplinary action by the chief whip against people who criticise St Jeremy of Islington. Looks like the sort of behaviour that would fall under the heading of perpetually offended...
This is the self same wannabe next leader who lost the plot at a priest in public for resigning over Emine's HDV-inspired move to Noel Park.
This is the calibre of candidates being selected to represent Haringey.
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Nora set the police on me in 2014 for alerting the electorate to what she and her husband (no longer a Labour Party member) had done to fiddle the selection in St Ann's. That's what's priceless about it.
Perpetually... ha ha ha
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Permalink Reply by kotkas on
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Totally agree. The sort of counter factual demagoguery that got us Brexit and Trump is at play on this issue. I do agree with some of the concerns, but worry about the substance of the argument. Tempted to start a mythbusting thread because so much of what is said on the issue is politicised and shrouded in hysteria.
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Go for it!
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OP: I look forward to voting for Labour candidates [...] who support socialist policies.
Breathtaking statement to me - even in America the Democrats from Obama on down will never openly admit they are socialists.
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Let's remember an undeniable truth:
With socialism, the powerful become rich. The middle class has no chance to become powerful or rich and this is by design. That leaves only one place for people to go to acquire power and to acquire money under socialism, and that is the government; in particular running it and having control over it. First government power, then the money comes in.
Add to this human nature being what it is, and one sees why socialism always ends up being a tyranny. The circa 100million dead in the 20th century under Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot (and to a "smaller" degree Franco and Mussolini) is the irrefutable evidence.
(Please don't waste my time trying to argue that Hitler and Mussolini were not Socialists. It is not even debatable.)
That made clear, it's fairly easy to understand why the usual posters would spit vitriol at the HDV--because however properly or improperly crafted, in the end it represents a government actually doing something very unusual, which is earning its own money.
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There is one other self-stated socialist here and that would be Mr Alan Stanton. (I say this to make it clear to the moderator that I am not saying "epithets"; I am only calling people as they have called themselves.) I've read scores of his posts and he doesn't fail to mention every other one that he was a councillor here. Yet, for all those posts I've never seen him state one single accomplishment that he was responsible for or contributed to when he was on the Haringey council.
Rather, and instead of making reasoned analysis, we are treated to name calling of Claire Kober. Anyone who might disagree is being dismissed as a "troll" or a "tory" (there are some epithets there mods BTW). He has even given the real name of someone who simply deigns to ask for a cogent argument from the guy, rather than his usual sophomoric pseudo-intellectual rambing prattle that Das Kapital easier to read.
So how about in addition to your broken-recording to us that the HDV sucks, how about you tell us what works and what you have actually done for people, including businesses who pay the lion's share of the money you presumably plundered and wasted when you were a councillor.
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What you describe as Socialism I would also say is Totalitarianism. I like a bit of Socialism in my life which I regard as collective insurance. The NHS is a prime example. Pensions another one. We all put in according to what we can afford and should anything bad happen to us, we just need to be citizens to be picked up by the state's Socialist functions.
Capitalism implies that there are people who hold most of the capital and that they will not abuse that position. The always do and governments have to step in to stop it.
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