Hey, welcome on board. Hope you find something useful here. As I said, it's a little chaotic, but if you dig around - use the links on the navigation panel on the main page as a starter, there's quite a lot on it.
Check out the 1920s footage of Green Lanes. People sem to get a kick out of that.
Another thought just occurred to me. Adam, who's a member of this site (search the member page on....wel..Adam!), has two email lists he regularly circulates to - "Mums" & "Dads". I think they're both Harringay lists, biased towards the Ladder. It may be worth your messaging him to see if he mightn't mail them about what you're doing.
Thanks Liz. Yes, I know te FP site, you'll see he takes a small feed from this site. The Guardian story he ahs is the full version from the newspaper which I also published on the News page together with picture.
I hadn't heard of the fb group. Thanks. I'll dig around.
248 members on that fb group - wow; fertile ground. Past experience says I may get 3 or 4. Seems like many are ex-residents. But every three or four helps - and who knows! Thanks Liz. Have to see if my post stays or gets deleted and I get booted out again!
Shamelessly canvass all you like. It's part of what the site's for.
Using this site and "real-world" connections to build the community is my thaing right now. So where this site can support the activisim of an energetic local resident like you, that's great. My thoughts behind building a broader real-life organisation network are that you can only achieve so much in the virtiual world. Some people will self-exclude or be excluded for other reasons. Also it doesn't need me t tell you that the strongest bonds are made beyond the internet. And finally, whilst the onlt Ladder-wide organisation continues to have a limited constituency, it's leverage as a change agent with the Council will never reach its full potential. (although I would reiterate I'm a great fan of what Ian & co do and have a great deal of admiration for what they've achieved - which is a darn site more than me and most of the rest of us. But that admiration doesn't mean I can't envision an even more effective organistaion with a broader remit.)
I wonder the same thing. I don't know why some communities care and others don't. But I wouldn't be surprised if a sense of pride in a place and a sense of belonging to it are critical. So part of my agenda is to support buidling those (Have I missed your point again?)
Getting people to join and join in ain't easy. I pointed someone else you way earlier who'd been looking for any discussion on schools. I think it was Alison P. You can see comment on her page and what I said.
Hi Liz! Yes we did meet yesterday! I'm not a very frequent visitor to this site but got an alert to say I had a message, which was handy!! Thanks for offering to be a rep for the nursery - we sometimes find it tricky to make good contact there! It was good to see you at the PSA, no doubt will see you there again sometime! I'm generally only around school on a Wednesday as I work the rest of the week.
Noticed that you'd tried to nudge an "Alyson" this way. Thanks.
Nightmare sceanrio today is that for some reason the site's dropped off Google. No ide why, it's a bit of a mystery. We were ranking at 5 or 6 on "Harringay" then poof - nada. Hopefully it'll come back in a couple of days. Took a lot of work getting the rank in the 1st place and it's really helped people find us.
Of course you can - virtual as in not real or virtual as in net-based?
My experience of offering genuine goodies on this site has been poor. Last year I offered free meals on Green Lanes, tickets to some of 2007's best films, a weekend of motorsport,etc - very very few people showed any interest. So something virtual (as in not real) that's fun and might capture the imagination might fit the bill.
Islington Council's hopes of being able to move Ashmount School to a new, parkland site continued to grow last week as councillors voted to go ahead with the next stage of relocation.
If planning applications are granted, by 2010 pupils [would] be attending the school in a brand new building located at park in Crouch Hill where there used to be a community centre. In addition to the new school building, huge improvements to the open land are planned to benefit the whole community, with the creation of "Crouch Hill Community Park" as well as a nursery, a youth centre and play space.
Head teacher of Ashmount School, Pana McGee said: “The new school building will be a fantastic boost to pupils and teachers alike as they’ll be able to make use of top quality facilities in a wonderful environment. It’s also great that the school will be part of a wider project to improve and extend the range of services offered to the local community as a whole.”
Executive Member for Children and Young People, Ursula Woolley was similarly enthusiastic, saying: “Lots of people have been working very hard on this project. Crouch Hill is a beautiful location and so long as we can get the planning approval we need from Ken Livingstone it will be a wonderful place for children to go to school and a stunning and unusual local park and set of community buildings for everyone in the area.”
Councillors agreed at the Executive meeting to start looking for a design and construction team to begin the process of planning applications.
Notes to editors
Islington Council is funding the scheme from a combination of the proceeds of selling commercial property, government grant and the redevelopment of the current school site.
In December 2006, over 500 people responded to a consultation on the Ashmount School development. The consultation showed substantial, broadly based support for the move.
If you want to be kept up to date with developments, send a message to:-
CrouchHill-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
And you will be put on an email discussion list.
Please copy this message to any one you think might be interested.
Thanks Liz. Yes, I'm sure we've passed each other on the passage numerous times. Must work out how to post my photo, haven't quite got hang of that yet.
Hi Liz, My daughter is 6 and attends SHS. I have been unableto find a half-term solution that works for us - I work Mon-Thurs. We actually use a club in Camden. I am definitely interested in any children's activities though. I keep an eye out and usually get to hear from this site or school.
"Too right. Nothing good on telly so everyone gets on here to have a moan/laugh/both!" ....tsch.......phwww... ttttt.......aahhh.......well, that puts the site in it place. I'm just so shocked I can hardly.........................
It's great to get such a good response and now from Glyn. If there is need, i may change my dissertation topic from Mountview Court to the Passage. There certainly seems to be more people willing to cooperate. Haringey Council is very poor at responding and I could be some help. No chocolate yet, I haven't had time - doing assignments as well as working :o(
Liz,
Maybe you could pass this on. We had a conviction at Wood Green Crown Court yesterday with a woman who was found guilty of Assisting in the running of a Brothel at the said address.
We have visited the owner who is letting the address who has his office in Muswell Hill. Now he is aware of what it is being used for if he doesnt stop it he will be committing offences. He knows this and is going to serve the current occupiers notice to leave. We are going to receive copies of all correspondence that he has with them.
In other words in the long term they will be gone.
Glyn
Hey Liz, just noticed your post from a few days back - yes will be there on 4th, looking forward to meeting some virtual friends (in the electronic sense I mean!).
Hi Liz. I don't mind what way the discussion goes. I am surprised more people did not have an opinion about them.
Our children go to South Harringay, do yours go to the infants, or are you connected another way? What is the LCSP you mentioned? I would question whether it was on the traffic consultation to remove them, and, if it was not, what was the point of having the consultation and then doing something without consulting about it - but maybe I am wrong there, don't think they could have just done that without consulting surely.
We live locally, so can park where we like if we do use a car to drop off the children, as can other local parents who are going straight on to work. However, SH Jun & Inf have high pupil mobility, and many families in temporary accomm, so they start with SH as their local school then get moved elsewhere. For those that consider it important to have consistency in their children's education, and who have a car but are no longer local, they have nowhere to park, and the younger children need bringing into school, so they are stuck - there is no flexibility now. The same is true for people using the church on Wilberforce Road - they open their doors to a wide variety of community groups as well as for the congregation, and now the space by the church which used to be a free parking bay, ideally sited as not outside a residential property is now residents only, not even pay and display.
Hi Liz.. regarding your comment on ex-pats in Spain.. I did reply, but Hugh thought that reply and another to be too controversial for public viewing.. :o( So I was deleted..
I'll ask him to send the reply to you.. I was in fact agreeing with you and pointing out to Rahman that I live as a foreigner in another land where I also had to learn the language to get a job.. Don't pick me out as a fascho.. I'm not.. But all coins have two sides and it can't be right, that just one side shows willingness to integrate.. the other must want to too as well.. that was my point.
BTW I'm not sure if you're interested, but I sent Hugh some shots I took today (rather grey) of turkish run greengrocers here: (most greengrocers are turks here) and a couple of shots of the area I live in, which is similar (I think) to Harringay.. here are the links:
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=neukoellnhr4.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=potsexd4.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kwpl01wew9.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kwpl03wgk3.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kwpl02wgx1.jpg
Hi again, not got this comment leaving bit sussed. Anyway I will try and speak to the heads to see what they think, the council don't really take too much account initially or at least they didn't of the school's views when they introduced the CPZs, they don't necessarily get the sam mailings as residential properties. If the first bit of what i said did not reach you, it was just to say that yes, we do know a family who use the church on Wilberforce Road
Hugh
Check out the 1920s footage of Green Lanes. People sem to get a kick out of that.
H
Jan 10, 2008
Hugh
Another thought just occurred to me. Adam, who's a member of this site (search the member page on....wel..Adam!), has two email lists he regularly circulates to - "Mums" & "Dads". I think they're both Harringay lists, biased towards the Ladder. It may be worth your messaging him to see if he mightn't mail them about what you're doing.
H
Jan 14, 2008
Hugh
I hadn't heard of the fb group. Thanks. I'll dig around.
H
Jan 14, 2008
Hugh
Jan 14, 2008
Hugh
Jan 14, 2008
Hugh
Jan 14, 2008
Adam
thanks for your message.
tell me a bit more about your kidstuff project.
best wishes
adam
Jan 14, 2008
Hugh
Using this site and "real-world" connections to build the community is my thaing right now. So where this site can support the activisim of an energetic local resident like you, that's great. My thoughts behind building a broader real-life organisation network are that you can only achieve so much in the virtiual world. Some people will self-exclude or be excluded for other reasons. Also it doesn't need me t tell you that the strongest bonds are made beyond the internet. And finally, whilst the onlt Ladder-wide organisation continues to have a limited constituency, it's leverage as a change agent with the Council will never reach its full potential. (although I would reiterate I'm a great fan of what Ian & co do and have a great deal of admiration for what they've achieved - which is a darn site more than me and most of the rest of us. But that admiration doesn't mean I can't envision an even more effective organistaion with a broader remit.)
Wish you hadn't asked?
H
Jan 15, 2008
Hugh
Jan 15, 2008
Hugh
Jan 15, 2008
Hugh
Jan 17, 2008
Alison
Jan 17, 2008
Hugh
Nightmare sceanrio today is that for some reason the site's dropped off Google. No ide why, it's a bit of a mystery. We were ranking at 5 or 6 on "Harringay" then poof - nada. Hopefully it'll come back in a couple of days. Took a lot of work getting the rank in the 1st place and it's really helped people find us.
H
Jan 18, 2008
matt
I've started off with a 'we have lots of toddler stuff to get rid of' msg (!) but I will be able to contribute useful info to this group too.
Cheers.
Jan 20, 2008
Hugh
My experience of offering genuine goodies on this site has been poor. Last year I offered free meals on Green Lanes, tickets to some of 2007's best films, a weekend of motorsport,etc - very very few people showed any interest. So something virtual (as in not real) that's fun and might capture the imagination might fit the bill.
Jan 28, 2008
Hugh
Jan 29, 2008
David Barry
Press release from Islington
Ashmount School on the move
Islington Council's hopes of being able to move Ashmount School to a new, parkland site continued to grow last week as councillors voted to go ahead with the next stage of relocation.
If planning applications are granted, by 2010 pupils [would] be attending the school in a brand new building located at park in Crouch Hill where there used to be a community centre. In addition to the new school building, huge improvements to the open land are planned to benefit the whole community, with the creation of "Crouch Hill Community Park" as well as a nursery, a youth centre and play space.
Head teacher of Ashmount School, Pana McGee said: “The new school building will be a fantastic boost to pupils and teachers alike as they’ll be able to make use of top quality facilities in a wonderful environment. It’s also great that the school will be part of a wider project to improve and extend the range of services offered to the local community as a whole.”
Executive Member for Children and Young People, Ursula Woolley was similarly enthusiastic, saying: “Lots of people have been working very hard on this project. Crouch Hill is a beautiful location and so long as we can get the planning approval we need from Ken Livingstone it will be a wonderful place for children to go to school and a stunning and unusual local park and set of community buildings for everyone in the area.”
Councillors agreed at the Executive meeting to start looking for a design and construction team to begin the process of planning applications.
Notes to editors
Islington Council is funding the scheme from a combination of the proceeds of selling commercial property, government grant and the redevelopment of the current school site.
In December 2006, over 500 people responded to a consultation on the Ashmount School development. The consultation showed substantial, broadly based support for the move.
If you want to be kept up to date with developments, send a message to:-
CrouchHill-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
And you will be put on an email discussion list.
Please copy this message to any one you think might be interested.
Jan 31, 2008
David Barry
Jan 31, 2008
David Barry
N8 9EG is the post code, and it works if you put it into google maps and then have a look at the satellite photo...
Jan 31, 2008
Alison P
Thanks for being the first person to join the gardening group!
Alison
Feb 1, 2008
Alison P
Feb 3, 2008
Martha
Feb 4, 2008
Alison P
Yes, gardening group going well, really hope it takes off as would love to pick people's brains and learn more.
All best
Alison
Feb 4, 2008
Hugh
Feb 4, 2008
Hugh
Feb 5, 2008
TTTH
Feb 5, 2008
matt
Feb 6, 2008
matt
Feb 6, 2008
Alison P
Feb 7, 2008
Anette
Feb 7, 2008
Anette
Feb 8, 2008
David Jones
andrews.busiakiewicz@virgin.net
Feb 8, 2008
matt
:)
Feb 8, 2008
Harringay SNT
Maybe you could pass this on. We had a conviction at Wood Green Crown Court yesterday with a woman who was found guilty of Assisting in the running of a Brothel at the said address.
We have visited the owner who is letting the address who has his office in Muswell Hill. Now he is aware of what it is being used for if he doesnt stop it he will be committing offences. He knows this and is going to serve the current occupiers notice to leave. We are going to receive copies of all correspondence that he has with them.
In other words in the long term they will be gone.
Glyn
Feb 9, 2008
Anette
Off to do some gardening now. Hurrah!
Feb 9, 2008
Alison P
Feb 11, 2008
Richard
Our children go to South Harringay, do yours go to the infants, or are you connected another way? What is the LCSP you mentioned? I would question whether it was on the traffic consultation to remove them, and, if it was not, what was the point of having the consultation and then doing something without consulting about it - but maybe I am wrong there, don't think they could have just done that without consulting surely.
We live locally, so can park where we like if we do use a car to drop off the children, as can other local parents who are going straight on to work. However, SH Jun & Inf have high pupil mobility, and many families in temporary accomm, so they start with SH as their local school then get moved elsewhere. For those that consider it important to have consistency in their children's education, and who have a car but are no longer local, they have nowhere to park, and the younger children need bringing into school, so they are stuck - there is no flexibility now. The same is true for people using the church on Wilberforce Road - they open their doors to a wide variety of community groups as well as for the congregation, and now the space by the church which used to be a free parking bay, ideally sited as not outside a residential property is now residents only, not even pay and display.
Sorry long list, but that is what I think
Feb 12, 2008
StephenBln
I'll ask him to send the reply to you.. I was in fact agreeing with you and pointing out to Rahman that I live as a foreigner in another land where I also had to learn the language to get a job.. Don't pick me out as a fascho.. I'm not.. But all coins have two sides and it can't be right, that just one side shows willingness to integrate.. the other must want to too as well.. that was my point.
BTW I'm not sure if you're interested, but I sent Hugh some shots I took today (rather grey) of turkish run greengrocers here: (most greengrocers are turks here) and a couple of shots of the area I live in, which is similar (I think) to Harringay.. here are the links:
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=neukoellnhr4.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=potsexd4.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kwpl01wew9.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kwpl03wgk3.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kwpl02wgx1.jpg
Feb 14, 2008
Richard
Feb 14, 2008