Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
New GP Building on the Way for Harringay whilst Hawes & Curtis Development Gets Green Light
Provisional funding for a new GP building in Harringay has just been approved in the same week that the Planning Committee approved plans to develop the Hawes and Curtis site.
Funding for a new GP building as part of the Hawes and Curtis development has just been given provisional approval. There was great scepticism as to whether the heath facility was a developer's tease or not and doubts that would ever get built.
It seems the sceptics may have been confounded however, with the news that there will be approximately £10 million for three new purpose built GP practice buildings in the borough courtesy of NHS England’s Estates and Technology Transformation Fund. One is in Harringay; the others are in Wood Green and Tottenham Hale.
In other news, the Planning Committee approved the development proposal for the Green Lanes site despite well organised opposition from nearby residents concerned about the impact of the seven-storey building on their 'right to light'.
Whilst these two stories suggest some certainly for the future of the Hawes and Curtis site, local chit-chat has suggested that the start of the development may be delayed. Whether this will turn out to be yet another example of land-banking or just local gossip getting the wrong end of the stick, only time will tell.
Tags for Forum Posts: 590-598 Green Lanes, hawes & curtis
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Permalink Reply by andy h on
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Hi Hugh,
The developers of the Hawks and Curtiis site will be waiting for approval of the current plans before they expand the development by 10 to 20% on cost grounds or president (it's happened before) 'Oh well, what's an extra floor' when you've already got approval, and the GP surgery will be used as leverage either there or up at the Queens Head to gain final planning permission.
As I said - it's all happened before.
What's more important is - will it be a beautiful building! Or just another ( cheap) lowest common denominator ??
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It will be a nasty blot on the whole area, looming over every building for streets around.
Most of the dwellings only just meet the minimum space standards so you can be sure the developers won't waste a penny to make it look nice.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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I agree. Notwithstanding the issues it creates for nearby residents, I'm all for it.
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Except what all those jolly images of happy people manage to exclude in every one is the actual height of each of the buildings looming over their nearest neighbour.
So, in order that you don't have to look at a "tacky carwash", someone else should be deprived of light in their overlooked rooms and should lose their privacy because they will be overlooked by a building 2/3x the height of theirs.
"Notwithstanding the issues it creates for existing residents" is precisely the problem - or does it only matter if yours is the house being overlooked and deprived of light?!
Great community spirit guys!
Maybe we should be looking at the bigger picture here - this development is completely out of character with the surrounding area and should never have been granted planning permission due to its multiple infringement of planning policy.
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I have to say I'd rather they used yellow London stocks rather than the Birmingham reds ( too many of those round here already). London's weather better in my opinion ( and it's only an opinion) they'll blacken with pollution over a long time but when cleaned up or new, look fantastic.
But.... What about some modern materials?? Zaha Hadid will be spinning in her grave.
The other thing the visuals are missing is some really bigggg neon signs ( for a bit of reality), ' Ambulance Chasers Inc' or 'Bloody Big Babery' with a spinning illuminated elephant leg and light sabre should just about sort it.
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Hey Hugh, does Green Lanes count as a town centre or does that rule not apply for 7 stories? Is there anything that highly in the area?
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The policy is that buildings can go up to 9 stories outside of any tall buildings area. None of Harringay is in a designated tall buildings area. In theory, buildings should be sympathetic with their surroundings wherever they are built. However, as Haringey made explicitly clear in their recent Hampden Road decision, they will ignore their own tall buildings policy along with any other policy so as to "take each case on its own merits".
I'm left to conclude that planning policy is there as a rough rule of thumb available to the council when it needs support for its decisions, but readily dispensed with when it doesn't accord with the prevailing political will. In any future encounter with planning, the first form of influence I would seek to harness would be political. I'd aim to support that, (deal more cynically than hereunto), with reference to policy.
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The London Plan actually says something to the effect (can't access the relevant doc at the moment to quote verbatim) that a tall building is one that is taller than the surrounding area OR 10 storeys or more.
So, a massive 5-storey block (i.e. running almost the entire length of the street) looming over a terrace of 2-storey houses would seem to be taller than its surroundings.
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