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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Two-thirds of St Ann's Hospital site is due to be sold for private housing development. With only 14% of homes classed as 'affordable', current proposals take no account of the needs of local people. The community land trust 'StART' (St Ann's Redevelopment Trust) believes that it can do better. We have launched a crowdfunder, and we want you to get involved! Momentum is building; we were recently profiled in The Guardian.

StART's vision is simple: we want to ensure that the St Ann's site is used to benefit the whole community. Our plans are based on community consultation, seeking a far higher level of truly affordable, high quality housing and aiming to promote its fantastic green space. We also seek a development that is sensitive to local residents' health needs.

We have instructed architects to prepare initial plans. We now need to raise £25k to pay for the finished plans to be drawn up. These plans will allow StART to cost the project and put together a bid for the site. To make this happen, StART is fundraising now! Please click here to donate!

As it's a crowdfunder, donations will only be drawn from accounts once the full target has been reached. If you'd prefer, you can also support StART by becoming a member, or simply spreading the word! You can email StART at info@startharingey.co.uk.

Let's do it!

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It's an interesting set of discussions, but still I have not found the answer to "what is the disposal process?". 

What I have found is a planning application made by Andrew Wright. Director of Strategic Development at Barnet Enfield ... using Oliver Bell of KT15 2BW as agent. Haringey has granted permission for this proposed development. This application seems to me to be bizarre. What chance did Andrew Wright have in June 2014 of guessing what a developer might want to build in 2017 (-18? / 19? / 20?  . . . ).  Has he simply wasted our £40,000 (a guess based on the START figures) getting these plans drawn up. Surely they will have to be resubmitted to suit whatever purpose eventually arises. Unless LBH insist that these be the plans that are actually developed. The rumour is (we only have rumour to go on - there are desperately few facts) that this is what LBH has done at Hornsey Town Hall with the plans that LBH approved for itself many years ago. Surely an intolerable constraint on any developer? 

Perhaps the answer is that the exact mechanism for the disposal has not yet been decided. Perhaps the owner of the site (London Borough of Haringey?) will go through the OJEU process being used for Hornsey Town Hall (if we are still in the EU by  . . whenever). Perhaps Haringey's massive-major-buildings-on-publicly-owned-sites-development-partner will simply get the nod, and Haringey will share the profits (lol). Or perhaps a local estate agent will put a board up.

My fear is that the time, effort , dedication, professionalism and fund-raising by START may simply be whistling in the wind.

A site with an approved planning application can be worth ten times what a site without would be worth so it's far from a waste of money.  The developer can submit their own plans at a later date.  I think you'll find the issues with Hornsey Town Hall are that it is a listed building.  The St Anns development has always recognised that the entire site will be bull-dozed and started from scratch.

The hospital site is not owned by LBH, but by the mental health trust.  The disposal rules are different.  I am not fully aware of the process - I'll try to find out and post later.

From StART's perspective it would, I understand, be better if it were owned by LBH as we could,  as a community organisation, get in first with our proposal.

There were two planning applications - one for full planning permission for the health facilities (passed) and another for outline planning permission for the housing (passed).  The latter is to provide potential developers with an indication of what the local authority wants to see on the site and would have to be followed up with a full planning application with detailed plans.

I have had a chat with one of the StART team, and apparently there is no clear disposal plan at the moment.  We are hoping that the mental health trust will be able to agree a deal with us without going out to tender.

Could StART qualify for additional funding as a 'Project' of the Aviva Community Fund? 

Surely it can drum up the necessary support to be a serious contender here:

http://www.aviva.co.uk/good-thinking/community-fund

Just an idea.. came across this earlier and thought of StART.. I have no vested interest in Aviva:)

Thanks Guy - will pass the info on.

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