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Here come the self driving vehicles AND Basic Income

We're saved, no more traffic problems! Vox article here.

So far, discussion of self-driving cars has mostly confined itself to tech geeks and urbanists. But if they live up to their promise, autonomous vehicles could have seismic effects on America’s economy and culture. It’s probably time for a wider circle of participants, including economists, politicians, and social scientists, to start grappling seriously with what’s coming.

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Let’s take just one example: long-haul trucking.

In a great post about autonomous trucks, blogger and independent researcher Scott Santens advocates for a universal basic income to protect truck drivers and the many others who will lose jobs to automation and robotics in coming decades.

That’s an interesting idea — lots of good Vox articles on it — but it seems unlikely to manifest in the US in the next decade.

Until then, what’s the solution to hundreds of thousands of unemployed truck drivers?

Tags for Forum Posts: autonomous vehicles, basic income, traffic, vox

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Ok - I take that point and I am not saying we shouldn't support these people however I can't rationally see how giving someone on 100k a year an extra 10k is part of the solution to the problems described as part of a basic income. It's a very sub optimal
I think that's changing. People's skills and experience are more valued now.

When my mum retired from teaching at 66 she was immediately headhunted by an educational consultancy.

How long would it have taken the self driving vehicles to recognise the blocking of Wightman Road, and the two - way working on some rungs ?

Quicker than the humans.

Basic pay = employment benefit

residents parking = parking tax

Naturally if you make 10's of millions of people unemployed due to robotisation you will gain social unrest but this will not stop governments and business pushing the envelope to the point when they have to take action. The basic pay / unemployment benefit due to robotisation will not be proactive. Most simple repetitive work can be robotised and will be if cost stack up with people designing robots, robots making robots and people selling robots. New industries will be created but not to the extent where it replaces all the old jobs. My suggestion is think about your future career wisely especially for younger workers. A career that cannot be replaced by a robot unless it is 100% humanoid. If will come down to certain manual skilled jobs will be the high currency of employment that is future proof from robots.

Along with the robotisation will also come a lock down on freedom and as stated before the 3rd world countries may well become a place where you can have the freedom without drones in the sky 24/7 monitoring our every move along with monitoring of our communications.

Uber are rolling out self driving cars in Pittsburgh, right now. More here.

That article doesn't really live up to the headline John, does it?

Well for all the people calling "nonsense" when I say that they're five years away and will mean a massive change to how cities are planned, I say "look".

Current utilisation of private motor vehicles is estimated to be around 3%. That means that 97% of the time your car is clogging up the streets outside your house. Replace private car ownership with self driving Ubers, and they'll be really cheap, and we'll see so much space freed up for people to live.

Wasn't it the road lobby in the USA that saw the railway system virtually destroyed? Of course driverless trucks and cars will also pollute just the same. I still want one though...

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