Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Begging
What's people's thoughts ? I know it's a tricky subject matter and that it's highly possible that some might be making more money per day than some of us but on the other hand their needs are often greater than ours with such roaring drug addictions or poverty back home.
Perhaps trade not aid ? Maybe the tissue sellers are on to something just like the big issue sellers ? Just because they are organised, does that make them wrong? Maybe the problem is the givers encouraging people to continue a highly painful or crime syndicated faganesque lifestyle ? Maybe the problem is that we don't arrest them and offer an immediate forced detox programme if a serious drug addiction is clearly present which is now beginning to infringe on the happiness of others. Perhaps we need some drugs like heroin and crack on prescription for some very troubled users together with a zero tolerance approach to paying people to beg.
More benefits perhaps and allow the state to make this financial transaction in a more civilised way ?
Perhaps we should just give and be pleased we don't have such a crap job to do.
Or become a begger ourselves, is it a good little earner ? it's an ever popular career move after all.
What to do ?
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Permalink Reply by james walsh on
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Not a conroversial post aimed at Mr & Mrs angry then ?
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Seems like a very click-baity lure cast out here?? One of the issues around begging is that most people who are desperately poor would rather die in a hovel than beg. Begging is the last step into the gutter and those who do it are probably part of a 'ring'/part of a begging 'culture' ie travellers/gypsies/Romanies or desperate drink/drug users. Many of us would be happy to alleviate the suffering of the 'deserving' poor, but that compassion has been hijacked....
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Here we go.......
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good points, well said. "Hijacked" is the word. It must get organisations like Centre Point and Shelter etc etc so annoyed that people give to "probable" professional beggars and the organisations helping the desperately poor are left struggling. All the more reason to DD or SO monthly such organisations and happily say "sorry" to the pros.
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I suggest you go and write for the daily mail....failing that ...volunteer with an outreach team ...hope that will give you a reality check. .
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Good grief
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Suggestions beggars are crack addicts....tissue ladies trying it on....become beggars ourselves....a good little earner....seriously. ..that's balanced?....
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They.....when you group people together because you feel that 'they' are becoming a problem to 'us'
It's dehumanising. ...sorry you can't see that.
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No one would guess that from the tone of your post though. Thats the issue with some people here. I've worked with asylum seekers with serious housing needs but I wouldn't post something as if I hadn't a clue....
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Why not ask Justin Hinchcliffe? His government has rendered more people destitute than a destitute making thing...
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Permalink Reply by Justin Hinchcliffe on
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I sometimes offer to buy some food, or a hot drink, instead of giving money.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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Anyone know of a fairly recent report which tries to give a balanced and evidenced range of views of the issues? I mean the sort of old fashioned on-the-one-hand-on-the-other-hand study.
I saw a "news" item last month about Cambridgeshire Police asking the public not to give money to homeless people. It was headed "Killing With Kindness Campaign to protect the homeless".
The same phrase appeared in a report by Westminster Council in 2004. Though obviously the message that "crime and anti-social behaviour is not tolerated in Westminster" preceded the Parliamentary expenses scandal and other public misfeasance.
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