Outsiders view on shocking Wireless mob

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Permalink Reply by Norah Borough on July 9, 2015 at 22:20

'particularly the Somali community' how so? My Somali friends aren't afraid of it. Some of their kids went to the event...

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Permalink Reply by JLJones on July 9, 2015 at 22:23

A group came to a meeting in the mosque last december ago and were unhappy after last year....

Permalink Reply by John D on July 9, 2015 at 22:33

Now that DOES sound as if you're extrapolating from a small sample.

Permalink Reply by Carrie on July 10, 2015 at 7:39

OK, you may not feel deprived for a few days, but Haringey have amended their events policy to allow 15 event days a year.  If they decided to use this to the full, given that the 4 day Wireless has meant walls up for almost 3 weeks, it could mean we'd have walls up for over 9 weeks of the summer, which I imagine most people would be upset by.  The fear of this happening is why I think a lot of people complain - hoping to put pressure on the council to revert to the events policy that was previously in place, for 5 large event days a year, which I think most people could tolerate.

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Permalink Reply by Madeline on July 10, 2015 at 6:12

What is local? Is it here in a road that has the park inc the festival site, directly behind it? Or is it further afield? Where does local stop and become nearby? Where does it become "the area"?

From what I've been reading the further away people are living the more tolerant they are.

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Permalink Reply by Joe Bailey on July 10, 2015 at 20:20

I wish there was a like button on HoL, just for localist's comment!

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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on July 21, 2015 at 7:20

LAST Friday, the Islington Tribune carried an article and letters on the aftermath of the Haringey Council-approved Wireless. If the Local Authority's PR vehicle Haringey People covers this event, it would present a (usual) rose-tinted view.

Although I personally am little affected by the sound levels, I understand that the most intense noise blast falls on those unfortunate residents living on the east side of Seven Sisters Road (Hackney Borough). They were probably not consulted by Haringey about their Cabinet's policy decision to lift the cap on concert days and numbers.

(click to open)

Although the noise is transitory and minor damage may eventually be attended to, some damage is likely to go partly unrepaired, just as after last summer's pounding. The east side – aptly compared by David Lammy MP with the Serengeti – never fully recovered, yet it was allowed to be hammered again. Some more responsible local authorities let their parks lie fallow for a year after intensive use, as would a prudent farmer.

Above (click to open), letters from the Chair of the Friends of Finsbury Park (Haringey) and Mr Llewellyn-Jones (Hackney).

In the past, Islington Council has opposed large scale events in Finsbury Park. It's at the corner of three Boroughs. That description doesn't make much sense to the public, but Haringey Council tend to see this area as being at a distant periphery and not as highly regarded as other parts (if one were cynical, it could be seen as an advantage that much, if not most of the impact and disruption, falls on other Boroughs).

CDC
Haringey Councillor
Liberal Democrat Party

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Permalink Reply by Bob Hare on July 24, 2015 at 12:57

I joined the walk with FoFP and the very helpful council officer Lewis Taylor on Weds (22nd July). 

Among other things, we looked at the worst area of grass damage (as pictured in numerous blogs and described by David Lammy as 'the Serengeti' in the Evening Standard last week). Lewis said it will be aerated and re-seeded. However, Lewis was unwilling to say the area would be taped off for a period to allow the new grass to establish.

My feeling was that this was probably because there is an unwillingness on the part of the council to open the door to further accusations about the time that parts of the park are inaccessible as a result of the concerts (ie add another 6 weeks to the concert build-up and take-down times).

This area had never fully recovered from last year's concerts. This is a popular area for football and games, and it would be better if the council faced up to the need to exclude users for the regrowing period so that the surface is better for the rest of the year.

Bob Hare
(Lib Dem councillor spokesperson on parks)

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