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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Anyone know if the Green Party candidates for councillor elections coming up in a little over 2 months time have been announced?

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You sound refreshingly grounded and open. Great start! (I might even have said that if you'd disagreed with me!!)

Careful Tristan, you may even get one of Hugh's votes! Get knocking on those doors - start at the top of Hewitt :)

Start on the roads the main players ignore...

So Tristan to be clear. You're standing but won't be campaigning till 2018? So why should I vote for you? (Hugh must be giggling at how this has fallen neatly into his lap!)

to become a credible candidate in 2018

Thanks Tristan. At last we can truly boast openly that Harringay Ward has some incredible candidates this time around. Usually our candidates are so bloody incredible that they're AWWWWESOMEly unbelievable.

And yes, I agree with every word Hugh wrote about our Green carpetbaggers of 2010. Talk about giving a noble colour a bad name!

Being in the Greens is a bit like being a follower of Keir Hardie must have been - you know it takes a very long time to build up a following under the unfair 'first part the post' system we have for local and Parliamentary elections here. Several responses to that. Firstly it's worth voting for a party you know won't win but just might make second place, because the winning party feels threatened. Then they are more likely to adopt our policies. Pro-green politics in the broader sense, around Agenda 21 and later Sustainable Haringey, helped to push the Labour Council into the Greenest Borough Strategy and the 40/20 programme - not that there aren't some Labour councillors who genuinely wanted that anyway, not just to ward off the competition. Secondly we will never get to a winning position if we don't start growing into second-place kind of scale. Third, and most important, the PR system in the Euro election gives us a much better chance and has got us Jean Lambert, a very effective Green MEP who needs support. 

Where did the Greens go since 2010?  Some of us were campaigning pretty hard on borough-wide and London or national issues - for me, following losing a deposit for the Green Party in the 2010 General Election, it's been first and foremost preserving the NHS against cuts and privatisation. We now have 4 local campaigns - St. Ann's Hospital, the Whittington Hospital, 38 Degrees and Defend Haringey Health Services, and Haringey Greens have been active in all of them. Greens organised a meeting on April 23 at the Archway about the trade treaty which threatens public services as well as policy autonomy on many issues - see http://www.haringeygreens.org.uk/ttip. Then there was policing - since the 2011 riots they want water cannon on London's streets, a dangerous and indiscriminate dictators' weapon which Jenny Jones on the GLA tried to stop, and I wrote a protest to the consultation about that. And the endless demos and meetings against the cuts, the bedroom tax, the cuts in council tax benefit... the Con-Dems' 'austerity' has kept us far too busy. So if activists don't all have time to think much about local things like paving stones and parking, forgive us, but the welfare state is being dismantled around our ears and it's the big issues like these that are crucial. 

Hi Hugh

Yes i certainly agree that people need to understand the local community and be rooted. However it depends what you mean by local, as you know the ladder has changed dramatically over the years in terms of its socio-economic demographic, many of the children of people who can root themselves there in recent memory since the 60's have been priced out.

I am sure Asha one of the Lib Dem candidates will also agree with me on this. So we need to be careful not to exclude people either under the age of 40 (there are of course people who bought many years ago) or of a average London income from standing. So whilst some of us are not likely to be able to buy a house on the ladder without a lottery win in the near future we certainly have a right to stand and be considered on an equal playing field with those over 40 and of a higher income bracket.

Please also spare a thought for Clive's candidacy in Highgate - unless you flat share prices there are extortionate! :)

So yes absolutely judge us on what we have to say and don't go for this "drive by" campaigning which puts so many people off. People have to be willing to stick around even if they don't win and hold those who do win to account.

Emine Ibrahim

The Labour Party Candidate (Harringay Ward)

It is a squeeze living in London,
£40 to share a room in Camden
in the early 90's, coin in the slot
for a hot bath in shared bathroom, we've been there, Jarvis Cocker nailed it when his lyrics said ..it
makes good sense for us to live together... because you start to
be able to cover rent, once you establish relationships. The only reason we decided to buy was friends started to consider that with the rent they were paying it wouldn't
be much more to buy, now credit isn't that readily available, (this was
three years after Major exited No 10,) I don't see the recovery coming so soon young workers, unless Barking becomes the new Bethnal Green, all possible with appropriate
legislation and regeneration.

As a thought, locally those with lofts or rooms unused, could sublet to a student teacher. I still see my ex landlord after 20 years, now I look out for him, what ever happened to Capital flat share? we had 4 flat mates introduced this way, 10 flat mates in two decades in Harringay.

I think its a shame Unison didn't move to the Hornsey steel works site, they could have had their offices on the first two floors with affordable accommodation above, with quick access to Kings Cross.
Sorry for formatting from my phone

Not at all, I was going to help you and reformat it, but then I reflected and thought that in it's current format you come across, (I wondered if intentionally), as some sort of political urban dub poet. So I left things as they were.

Thanks for that Hugh. I actually thought mc had allowed the spellcheck to insert 'sorry for formatting instead of FOMENTING! Ah well, not much to do on a Sunday with the footie final on king sky..........

Always open to a helping hand....

not quite a calligramme,  Guillaume Apollinaire Im not.

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