Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Guys hanging out at Turnpike Lane Station
Anyone recognise the group of young guys who always seem to be hanging outside the betting shop by the Tesco at Turnpike Lane Station? Are they the same group who were ASBOed off Duckett's Common? I've seen the same guys just hanging there about half a dozen times over the last few weeks. Definitely not there to have a flutter on the GGs...
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Permalink Reply by Pete on
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I'm sure you're a decent person Sharon but I find it bizarre that you say 'I'm not on anyone's side'. How could anyone not be on the side of, for example, a terrified man in his 80s or a lone woman walking along the pavement being harassed and abused by a gang of drug dealers ?
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Permalink Reply by Sharon on
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Pete, I've made it clear how I felt about the old guy and about you and your little boy, and about women being harassed, it shouldn't be happening to anyone at all and I said it's clearly an issue. I said I would report those incidents and I would have found a way to step in and I understand why you could not. I also suggested getting in touch with the owners of the shops and I understand that the matter is being looked into and that is great.
My own experience of these lads is not the same, I haven't witnessed anything that has been described. I wish they weren t there and were doing something else but I don't see them as evil or monstrous. I also have my own way of approaching things, I agree with much of what FPR has said on the issue, these kids are part of our community. What, ideally would you like to happen? -
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'What, ideally would you like to happen?'
I'd like there to not be a gang of drug dealers standing in the same place every day harassing and abusing local residents.
Doesn't seem like too much to ask.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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The police came around pretty quickly to get the guys mugging people in the passage when "someone" mentioned taking the matter into their own hands. Just saying.
Personally I am still thinking of John Belushi and would point out that this is ALSO a freedom of speech issue. If there is a law to quieten little boys like this it will be used to quieten legitimate political dissent. Oh... wait.
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Permalink Reply by pamish on
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I still dont know if we're talking about little boys or grown men (Wood Green is not on my circuit). Groups of men are always always seen as threatening to most people. Teenagers - up to say 13 - ok. 15+, they have a lot to prove to each other and all they have left is their sad interpretation of masculinity, so it comes up as their first offering, and it's a bit crap, hence their unstoppable harassment of young women.
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I agree TBD, it's the only way something will happen, although it seems strange they've been allowed to get away with it for so long but as I say Inspector Craig Middleton who I've spoken to a few times recently agrees it's a ridiculous situation that people shouldn't have to put up with and says he's determined to do something about it.
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Hi Pamish - we're talking about a very well known group of local drug dealers in their 20s and 30s
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Hmmm. So telling their mums probably not so useful. Except their mums are still doing their washing I bet.
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Well, I've got away with that one with the kids outside my local shops ;-)
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It may help - low level street dealers often still live with their mums.
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Permalink Reply by Finsbury Park Ranger on
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Ooh, I do believe I may have inspired the wording of house rules 2b of haringey online. An accomplishment indeed.
Howzat !
TBD I have already said by all means arrest them (and lock them up for a while certainly if they are being abusive) my question to you is, what then ? Prohibition together with a low wage economy is like placing a ton of sugar lumps in a field and telling the horses not to eat them.
It always ends in tears.
We need a better balance between the state providing supply without private enterprise increasing demand. At the moment we have everything wrong, it's a justifiable debate to discuss.
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