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Removal of railings along Harringay Passage (at junctions with the roads)

Apart from Adam Coffman was anyone else aware this work - removal of railings along Harringay Passage (at junctions with the roads) - was happening?

I know it was discussed at the first meeting of the Harringay Passage Group (yet to be constituted) in January, but wasn't aware a decision had been made between the council & a few residents that this work was to go ahead.

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Won't someone think of the children!!!!

I think that if you step back you'll see there's some hysteria creeping in here so yeah, think I'm being sarcastic if you like but the loudest and craziest voices seem to be in your camp.

Do you really mean this? Don't thinl about child safety on a road outside a primary school?

Trolling, or flaming, I believe this is called. If your response to child safety concerns is flip and sarcastic comments and spurious accusations of hysteria, maybe you need to step away from the conversation and let us try to be constructive, eh? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming_(Internet)

I'm saying that, counter-intuitive though it may be, this could actually be safer for children and from what I have read over the years (and TfL have been doing this all over London), removing railings like this makes pedestrians safer. Everyone else is just assuming that they were to protect the children, they were not, they were there to allow drivers to go faster without paying so much attention.

So the post office van can park on the junction like he used to (and other drivers for that matter). A child almost got killed for this reason. This problem was designed out. Back to square one.

Wow, a stationary van was nearly responsible for the death of a child? Not a speeding driver?

'Yup', because it was parked half on the road, half on the pavement, forcing another moving vehicle into the path of a child who was also moving out onto the road as a pesdestrian, near the parked van.

Yup, as I said I like it. How do you feel about it, Ant, as a father of young ones?

For myself as a grownup i like it, it feels much more open and spacious. Also as a cyclist i've heard a lot of the serious cyclist injuries are caused by getting squashed into railings like these, so having them gone must be good. Not sure from the dangerous to kids perspective, if it is what would be ideal is to find a way to fix that while still keeping the open uncluttered aspect - so less cars and slower cars. Falkland Rd is already one of busier Ladder roads and that seems wrong to me as its got both NHP primary and Fairland Park on it. The no right turn into Falkland from Green Lanes would help - as outline here, and here - lets do that 

I've just spoken with the head of the highways department.

It appears that a contractor got ahead of himself and started the work without anyone (including Ward Councillors) being asked. He's looking into it and will get back to us by Friday.

In the meantime he is sending an engineer to the site and will be instructing the contractors to stop, pending the situation being clarified.

David Schmitz

Liberal Democrat Councillor for Harringay Ward

According to the project engineer in charge of the works who is in the same dept David, he is fully aware of the works happening yesterday and today because ... they 'have given the go ahead'.

When I spoke to the contractor in charge he was at the council's depot!

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