Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
The Satellite Dish Petition
So far we have 60 signatures. But we need more. The aim is not to harass people or stop people watching TV (god forbid) but to find a solution that stops this ugly forest being the first thing people see when they enter Harringay.
Please sign it if you would like it gone. Thanks.
http://www.change.org/petitions/haringey-council-take-action-to-rem...
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Permalink Reply by Abi on
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Having learned a little more about the improvement plans for shop fronts on Green Lanes, it strikes me as odd that this issue isn't already being looked into (if indeed it isn't).
Is there a contact involved with that project that we could perhaps pass this petition on to, to ensure that it's integrated into the overall plan? Would seem to make sense...
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Permalink Reply by Penguin on
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Yes that would be a good idea. I don't know of a contact - can anyone put one forward?
I had heard that they wanted the dishes 'relocated' as part of the improvements, but not sure they've had any luck.
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Am I the only one that thinks this petition is slightly dubious, in that the people likely to be affected by their satellite dish being moved/removed will, in the main be the various multicultural communities in the area, whose satellites are tuned to own language broadcasters?
Whether that's the intention or not (and I'm not suggesting for a moment that the petition has any sinister intent) those communities will be the main people affected by this proposal. So sorry Richard, I won't be signing. It does make me wonder why people choose to move to an area if they cannot accept who their already established neighbours are... and understand by extension, that some will use a dish for keeping in contact with news/entertainment from their countries of origin.
For me that trumps finding dishes distasteful to look at
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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Well yes and no. There are two issues really, the council's rules for how many satellite dishes are allowed to be attached to a single property are being very obviously flouted and the other issue is that I'd say the vast majority of dishes are no longer connected or working (just from looking at the dangling cables from the top of a bus).
Whether or not you're judging people for coming to London and staying inside and watching TV from home or not is another mater entirely.
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I wouldn't have a clue. Why is that relevant? Was it before the early 70s?
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Because you're email assumed i had recently moved into the area.
'It does make me wonder why people choose to move to an area if they cannot accept who their already established neighbours are... and understand by extension, that some will use a dish for keeping in contact with news/entertainment from their countries of origin.'
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Satellite dishes have been on buildings all over the country for twenty odd years. The point is that this should not have come as any great surprise to you when you moved to the area. You chose to move to Harringay, warts and all.
When communities comes together to affect improvements for all, that is to be welcomed. But if some improvements, as a by product, set one part against another (in this case not seeing that some of these dishes might be used so that others can maintain contact with the world outside harringay and the UK), that is going in the direction of gentrification.
While that is almost inevitable, it is not something that I wish to encourage into the neighbourhood I live in.
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Watching TV is not "maintaining contact".
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The element of 'choice' in moving to any area is relatively debatable in the current housing climate, Dermot...for the vast majority, where they wind up living is more of a compromise.
I also think your argument is a bit silly I'm afraid: even if this did mean removing people's access to particular channels (which it doesn't) there are better, less unsightly ways to pick up those channels using other forms of technology - whether that's smaller dishes, cable or something else entirely. I would absolutely put money on most of those dishes being out of action.
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And in the current housing climate let's not forget the massive disparities people in Harringay have between each other: rising rents vs rocketing house prices (look at the other threads). Choosing anywhere to live is a compromise.
To be clear here - I don't have a problem with landlords being asked to remove defunct dishes - if the council has that power.
But is your point to say that tenants with working dishes should be told to take down their dishes and install cable instead or - assuming they haven't done so already - should they upgrade their IT? Is that the solution here?
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Permalink Reply by Protheroe O'Shea on
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No one is telling people to take down working dishes. It's about having them out of eyesight, like on the roof for example. Why the twisting?
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