Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Update from Discussion re future of #earlhaighall
Hi All
Many thanks to those who have taken the time to sign the petition regarding the application by Antic Ltd for a license at the Earl Haig Hall.
Last night, myself, a few other local residents and Councillor David Winskill met with Max Alderman who is one of the partners at Antic, to give him the chance to express his case for the development of a pub in the Earl Haig Hall.
Whilst he did a good job at answering our numerous questions, I left feeling even more concerned than I did when I went into the meeting. The key point for me is that Antic is requesting a late-night license until 01.00 am from Thursday to Saturday. In practical terms, this means that they will stop serving at 01.00, which means that people will leave between 01.30 and 02.00. The doors will eventually be locked after staff have cashed and cleaned up which could be anything up to 02.30-03.00!
The noise from people milling outside the venue, shouting, calling taxis and staff getting rid of bottles and rubbish at the time of the morning, will cause a massive disturbance to the street. Further, Max did not seem to appreciate my concern that punters leaving the Queens at 11.30 will then all pile into the Earl Haig and that we could also have a situation whereby two pubs are closing at the same time, adding to disturbance that already exists in the area!
Antic seem to have good intentions – they want to ensure that they build a strong relationship with the local community and many of their pubs have won awards for being ‘good pubs’. However, they seem to have a bizarre assumption that the Earl Haig will attract an older crowd and not a younger ‘Kiss the Sky’ or ‘Kings Head’ crowd. I frankly think that is nonsense as anywhere with a late license will attract a younger and therefore noisier crowd. Also, when asked if they would consider opening during normal pub hours, Max said that a great deal of their business is done between 10.00pm and 01.00am, which means a very busy pub during that time.
They believe that their application to run a pub will not need a change of use from the planning committee, so it is crucial that as many people as possible object to this. This is essentially about the fabric of this road and the surrounding roads. It will have a major impact on all of us and I would request that you send this petition to your friends and colleagues in the area asking them to sign it. The more objectors, the better chance we have of stating our case for our community. Please send your objection to the licensing team at Haringey Council – licensing@haringey.gov.uk or fill in the details on the form which can be found here - http://www.haringey.gov.uk/licensing_representation_form.pdf
Deadline is next Friday 28 September.
Thanks for your support
Miki Lentin
Fairfield Road
07976793666
Replies to This Discussion
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Permalink Reply by james walsh on
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Miki. Do you have an alternative plan for the hall ? I'm not for or against the idea of a pub and i follow your concerns about noise pollution late at night for local residents. I just wondered what you would like to see done with the building.
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A local business consortium tried to buy it at auction but got out bid by CAWD. So yes there is another plan on the table, which we hope will come back to fruition if we reject Antic's application and stay patient.
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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Miki
You didn't answer James' question. What would you like to see done with the buiding ? ( Viable proposals preferred
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OK I'd like to see it retained for community use - that would be best case scenario. If that doesn't happen, then residential is the best option - we need accommodation for people in the borough and flats or a house would be fine.
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Miki - I was wondering if it wasn't for the late licence question would you object to it being a 'pub' ?
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Yes, I really don't think we need a pub in Elder Avenue - we have a very good one and that's all we need. The late license is an issue and a big part of it, but in general terms the balance of the area would not be right and would shift towards late night drinking in this part of CE which I would object to! But in general yes I would fear that a pub, by itself, without a late license would cause similar problems that I have outlined above.
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Hi All
Just a quick note to say thanks to all those who signed the petition re the license application for #earlhaighall. We now have 115 signatories.
It looks like the application will go to the licensing committee on 11 October. More info on where and when to follow as soon as I know. If you'd like to come along let me know, the more people who come and support us the better!
Thanks again
Miki
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