Wightman Narrowing Work is a Bodged Job - Harringay online2024-03-28T20:54:14Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/wightman-narrowing-work-is-a-bodge-job?commentId=844301%3AComment%3A1166624&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSounds like it could be troub…tag:harringayonline.com,2019-05-14:844301:Comment:11669472019-05-14T20:11:48.127ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>Sounds like it could be troublesome, Gordon. But I can’t help wondering if all these little irksomenesses may add up to a deference to using the road..........but that’s probably dreaming. And of course I wouldn’t welcome anything that increases accidents to any sort of road user. </p>
<p>Sounds like it could be troublesome, Gordon. But I can’t help wondering if all these little irksomenesses may add up to a deference to using the road..........but that’s probably dreaming. And of course I wouldn’t welcome anything that increases accidents to any sort of road user. </p> Joe & Hugh, and all users…tag:harringayonline.com,2019-05-14:844301:Comment:11669452019-05-14T20:04:26.699ZGordon Thttps://harringayonline.com/profile/GordonT
<p>Joe & Hugh, and all users of Wightman Rd: it isn't just the sightlines out of Raleigh Rd, poor though they now are. It also affects Wightman Rd drivers. Why?:</p>
<p>Denmark Road is opposite - makes it a crossroads not a T junction. <strong>And</strong> at that point Wightman Rd is at its absolute narrowest pavement to pavement, so vehicle width is an issue..</p>
<p>So; I drove from Turnpike Lane along Wightman today. Approached Raleigh - car waiting to turn right out of Raleigh. And car…</p>
<p>Joe & Hugh, and all users of Wightman Rd: it isn't just the sightlines out of Raleigh Rd, poor though they now are. It also affects Wightman Rd drivers. Why?:</p>
<p>Denmark Road is opposite - makes it a crossroads not a T junction. <strong>And</strong> at that point Wightman Rd is at its absolute narrowest pavement to pavement, so vehicle width is an issue..</p>
<p>So; I drove from Turnpike Lane along Wightman today. Approached Raleigh - car waiting to turn right out of Raleigh. And car waiting to turn left out of Denmark Rd.</p>
<p>Both car noses beyond the stop lines for better visibility, leaving just enough road for a car. Narrow road - not enough for a van.</p>
<p>I could have carried on. But stopped since traffic behind me was light and slow: both junctions cleared. Had it been really busy behind me and faster traffic it would have been a tougher call in case someone ran into the back of me.</p>
<p>So, this is how it is, it seems. Every day from now on.</p> The council's unstated strate…tag:harringayonline.com,2019-05-14:844301:Comment:11666242019-05-14T10:00:21.106ZJoeWhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/joew
<p>The council's unstated strategy is to maximise through-traffic on Wightman Road.</p>
<p>Haringey's published strategy does of course talk about walking and cycling but in practice Haringey (unlike neighbouring councils such as Walthamstow and Hackney) hasn't made significant progress promoting the active transport modes, since to do so requires filtering and other measures which reduce road capacity for private motorists.</p>
<p>In the face of a massive public health crisis caused by…</p>
<p>The council's unstated strategy is to maximise through-traffic on Wightman Road.</p>
<p>Haringey's published strategy does of course talk about walking and cycling but in practice Haringey (unlike neighbouring councils such as Walthamstow and Hackney) hasn't made significant progress promoting the active transport modes, since to do so requires filtering and other measures which reduce road capacity for private motorists.</p>
<p>In the face of a massive public health crisis caused by pollution and physical inactivity, Haringey's strategy is basically to fan the flames.</p> fully agree Paul. They need t…tag:harringayonline.com,2019-05-14:844301:Comment:11664202019-05-14T09:13:05.142ZDominikhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/DominikFrauendienst
<p>fully agree Paul. They need to put up signs to warn of the narrowing ahead. they come out of nowhere and even when going 20miles per hour require quick reaction times esp when vans come into your lane. </p>
<p>fully agree Paul. They need to put up signs to warn of the narrowing ahead. they come out of nowhere and even when going 20miles per hour require quick reaction times esp when vans come into your lane. </p> Hi Zena,
Thanks for this. I…tag:harringayonline.com,2019-05-14:844301:Comment:11666192019-05-14T09:09:53.696ZDominikhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/DominikFrauendienst
<p>Hi Zena,</p>
<p>Thanks for this. I was wondering if you had received any feedback from the officers in the meantime? As described below one of the build outs has already led to an accident. </p>
<p>Thanks again for your efforts!!</p>
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<p>Dominik </p>
<p>Hi Zena,</p>
<p>Thanks for this. I was wondering if you had received any feedback from the officers in the meantime? As described below one of the build outs has already led to an accident. </p>
<p>Thanks again for your efforts!!</p>
<p></p>
<p>Dominik </p> I commented upthread about La…tag:harringayonline.com,2019-05-14:844301:Comment:11665152019-05-14T08:28:54.714ZGordon Thttps://harringayonline.com/profile/GordonT
<p>I commented upthread about Ladder roads turnings onto Wightman now being so much more hazardous that some out-of-area [<em>rat-run]</em> drivers will choose another route.</p>
<p>Is this also an unstated strategy for the whole length of Wightman too?</p>
<p>I commented upthread about Ladder roads turnings onto Wightman now being so much more hazardous that some out-of-area [<em>rat-run]</em> drivers will choose another route.</p>
<p>Is this also an unstated strategy for the whole length of Wightman too?</p> Those build outs really come…tag:harringayonline.com,2019-05-14:844301:Comment:11666122019-05-14T05:33:23.693ZDominikhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/DominikFrauendienst
<p>Those build outs really come out of nowhere. They should put signs up warning of narrowing ahead. It’s even worse at night because they chose black bollards with no reflectors on them (as far as I can see). Wightman Road really has become more dangerous to drive on for all participants </p>
<p>Those build outs really come out of nowhere. They should put signs up warning of narrowing ahead. It’s even worse at night because they chose black bollards with no reflectors on them (as far as I can see). Wightman Road really has become more dangerous to drive on for all participants </p> Treated myself to a couple of…tag:harringayonline.com,2019-05-13:844301:Comment:11666942019-05-13T22:34:21.539ZDave Whttps://harringayonline.com/profile/DaveWorley
<p>Treated myself to a couple of expeditions down there on the home commute of late... I get the impression the cluttered, claustrophobic feel is to slow down drivers - it doesn't.</p>
<p>Treated myself to a couple of expeditions down there on the home commute of late... I get the impression the cluttered, claustrophobic feel is to slow down drivers - it doesn't.</p> I admit to having low expecta…tag:harringayonline.com,2019-05-13:844301:Comment:11666042019-05-13T20:20:11.200ZDavidJhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/David
<p>I admit to having low expectations - but this does seem to be shaping up to worse than I imagined. A car hit one one of the build outs this morning at some speed and had a blow out. </p>
<p>Generally, it actually looks like they have actually made cycling on Wightman Road even more dangerous than it used to be. Wow. </p>
<p>I admit to having low expectations - but this does seem to be shaping up to worse than I imagined. A car hit one one of the build outs this morning at some speed and had a blow out. </p>
<p>Generally, it actually looks like they have actually made cycling on Wightman Road even more dangerous than it used to be. Wow. </p> Maybe things are looking up b…tag:harringayonline.com,2019-05-10:844301:Comment:11658162019-05-10T07:16:14.667ZAlice Mezzohttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AliceMezzo
<p>Maybe things are looking up but I'll hold my (toxic!) breath until I see them actually make some real changes. They seem fine to let residents and even children breathe toxic air. So long as cars can park on Green Lanes and can make it along Wightman road without being impeded by cyclists etc etc</p>
<p>Maybe things are looking up but I'll hold my (toxic!) breath until I see them actually make some real changes. They seem fine to let residents and even children breathe toxic air. So long as cars can park on Green Lanes and can make it along Wightman road without being impeded by cyclists etc etc</p>