What happened to mask-wearing on public transport?? - Harringay online2024-03-29T08:52:40Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/what-happened-to-mask-wearing-on-public-transport?feed=yes&xn_auth=noCouldn’t agree with you more,…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-03:844301:Comment:14481212021-09-03T09:29:47.662ZDonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/DonKeller
<p>Couldn’t agree with you more, Paul. Lack of public government focus on infections and deaths (no more daily briefings, even from scientists who know what they’re talking about, let alone waffling ministers, and barely any press releases) suggests either complete disengagement in Whitehall or tacit complicity in the “herd immunity” policy that had to be denied in 2020 once the implications of the death toll became clear. I use FFP2 masks (the white ones that fit tightly across the nose and…</p>
<p>Couldn’t agree with you more, Paul. Lack of public government focus on infections and deaths (no more daily briefings, even from scientists who know what they’re talking about, let alone waffling ministers, and barely any press releases) suggests either complete disengagement in Whitehall or tacit complicity in the “herd immunity” policy that had to be denied in 2020 once the implications of the death toll became clear. I use FFP2 masks (the white ones that fit tightly across the nose and chin) rather than the thin blue ones — which admittedly are less uncomfortable, especially with glasses — and will continue to do so on transport, in shops and inside public places for as long as necessary, which I’m guessing means well into next year. I want to neither get nor spread any virus.</p> and meanwhile in the guise of…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-03:844301:Comment:14481992021-09-03T09:12:50.185ZAdrian Hackneyhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/MacHeath
<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/9526636268?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener">and meanwhile in the guise of leadership Sadiq Khan the man who insists masks must be worn on public transport is urging us to get back in the pub support the hospitality business <img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/9526636268?profile=RESIZE_710x" class="align-full"/></a></p>
<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/9526636268?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener">and meanwhile in the guise of leadership Sadiq Khan the man who insists masks must be worn on public transport is urging us to get back in the pub support the hospitality business <img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/9526636268?profile=RESIZE_710x" class="align-full"/></a></p> Chilling Stat from the Zoe Co…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-03:844301:Comment:14480112021-09-03T08:54:13.406ZPaul Skeltonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/PaulSkelton
<p>Chilling Stat from the Zoe Covid update video yesterday</p>
<p>900+people a day are getting/being diagnosed with Long Covid. </p>
<p>900 people every day, the legacy of this has major implications for those people and also society. </p>
<p>The Govt have given the message that it's now just part of life and we need to "learn to live with Covid". But surely any sensible risk assessment would have mandatory mask wearing in shops, public transport, theatres and other spaces where people interact…</p>
<p>Chilling Stat from the Zoe Covid update video yesterday</p>
<p>900+people a day are getting/being diagnosed with Long Covid. </p>
<p>900 people every day, the legacy of this has major implications for those people and also society. </p>
<p>The Govt have given the message that it's now just part of life and we need to "learn to live with Covid". But surely any sensible risk assessment would have mandatory mask wearing in shops, public transport, theatres and other spaces where people interact indoors as a basic containment measure.</p>
<p>Instead mask wearing has been bundled in with lockdowns, travel restrictions and furlough as though it impinges massively on personal freedoms. Lockdowns and travel restrictions are clearly major limits on personal freedom, but wearing a mask whilst going about your business for the protection of yourself and others and to limit the damage to society, surely that's a small thing to ask. I wear specs, and specs and mask are not a great combo, #steamysindows, but I'm still wearing my mask in shops, on tubes and anywhere indoors with others unless eating or drinking.</p>
<p>Sadly this government seem scared of social togetherness and the idea of a cohesive society. Their divide and conquer culture wars show this clearly. </p>
<p>sorry for the rant, happy Friday y'alls. </p> Oh no. I have tickets and tha…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-03:844301:Comment:14480842021-09-03T08:21:19.247ZSarahhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/SarahMoore195
<p>Oh no. I have tickets and that's put me right off attending now.</p>
<p>Oh no. I have tickets and that's put me right off attending now.</p> PS - I had a look at the arti…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-03:844301:Comment:14480832021-09-03T08:17:14.523ZMichael Andersonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/17bathgate
<p>PS - I had a look at the article you linked to</p>
<p><em>“There is no question it is beneficial to wear any face covering, both for protection in close proximity and at a distance in a room,” said Serhiy Yarusevych, a professor of mechanical and mechatronics engineering and the leader of the study. “However, there is a very serious difference in the effectiveness of different masks when it comes to controlling aerosols.”</em></p>
<p><span>In other words it’s better than nowt.</span></p>
<p>PS - I had a look at the article you linked to</p>
<p><em>“There is no question it is beneficial to wear any face covering, both for protection in close proximity and at a distance in a room,” said Serhiy Yarusevych, a professor of mechanical and mechatronics engineering and the leader of the study. “However, there is a very serious difference in the effectiveness of different masks when it comes to controlling aerosols.”</em></p>
<p><span>In other words it’s better than nowt.</span></p> The mask we commonly wear doe…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-03:844301:Comment:14479422021-09-03T08:09:11.561ZMichael Andersonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/17bathgate
<p>The mask we commonly wear does not prevent viruses passing through - a specific medical grade mask would be required for that - they prevent viruses from travelling as far. There a very simple experiment you can do to show how they work. Light a candle, stand about 4 feet away and blow it out. There’s a good chance you can do this. Then light the candle again, put a mask on and stand four feet away. Now try to blow it out.</p>
<p>it is precisely the same principle as the time honoured…</p>
<p>The mask we commonly wear does not prevent viruses passing through - a specific medical grade mask would be required for that - they prevent viruses from travelling as far. There a very simple experiment you can do to show how they work. Light a candle, stand about 4 feet away and blow it out. There’s a good chance you can do this. Then light the candle again, put a mask on and stand four feet away. Now try to blow it out.</p>
<p>it is precisely the same principle as the time honoured “Cover your mouth and nose with a hanky when you sneeze”. What you exhale doesn’t travel as far and therefore posses a risk to fewer people.</p>
<p>I read a rather good quote this morning “If the science is right wearing a mask will help prevent the spread of Covid. If it’s wrong it’s just a bit of cloth”</p> This appears to be an argumen…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-03:844301:Comment:14480032021-09-03T08:07:24.967ZJon Lhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JonLyne
<p>This appears to be an argument in favour of people wearing their masks properly fitted.</p>
<p>This appears to be an argument in favour of people wearing their masks properly fitted.</p> Simply repeating something d…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-03:844301:Comment:14479402021-09-03T07:58:22.263ZAdrian Hackneyhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/MacHeath
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<p>Simply repeating something does not make it true. I would very much like to see evidence. Reporting on <a href="https://uwaterloo.ca/news/media/study-supports-widespread-use-better-masks-curb-covid-19" rel="noopener" target="_blank">This study</a> contains the paragraph</p>
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<p>which is not a sufficient benefit to justify the imposition. And…</p>
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<p>Simply repeating something does not make it true. I would very much like to see evidence. Reporting on <a href="https://uwaterloo.ca/news/media/study-supports-widespread-use-better-masks-curb-covid-19" target="_blank" rel="noopener">This study</a> contains the paragraph</p>
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<p>which is not a sufficient benefit to justify the imposition. And gives the lie to the assertion about protecting others if 90% of the germs are broadcast anyway.</p>
<p>A much more meaningful intervention would have been for the theatre to fix all its doors open, which it did not.</p>
<p></p> I can only offer statistics.…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-03:844301:Comment:14481762021-09-03T07:55:18.006ZLydia Walterhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/LydiaWalter
<p>I can only offer statistics.</p>
<p>England mask wearing optional new Coronavirus cases 2nd September = 28,370</p>
<p>Italy mask wearing mandated in law new Coronavirus cases 2nd September = 6,754</p>
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<p>(This time last year we had around 1,000 new cases each day!)</p>
<p>I can only offer statistics.</p>
<p>England mask wearing optional new Coronavirus cases 2nd September = 28,370</p>
<p>Italy mask wearing mandated in law new Coronavirus cases 2nd September = 6,754</p>
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<p>(This time last year we had around 1,000 new cases each day!)</p> 178 Covid deaths yesterday sh…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-03:844301:Comment:14480772021-09-03T07:50:46.873ZRoslyn Byfieldhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/RoslynByfield
<p>178 Covid deaths yesterday should be focusing minds more..... too many just dont keep up with the news.</p>
<p>178 Covid deaths yesterday should be focusing minds more..... too many just dont keep up with the news.</p>