The Story of the Effingham-Beresford Backlands - Harringay online2024-03-28T09:01:58Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/the-story-of-the-effingham-beresford-backlands?groupUrl=historyofharringay&commentId=844301%3AComment%3A1271009&groupId=844301%3AGroup%3A10&feed=yes&xn_auth=noJust read this through again…tag:harringayonline.com,2023-08-29:844301:Comment:15504102023-08-29T18:44:00.773ZJohn Shulverhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/John_Shulver
<p>Just read this through again Hugh and found it as interesting as on first read. Thanks. I love to hear the recollections and links of others that these posts uncover, such as Geraldine "discovering she is an 'Elm Terrace' native". And Peter Bunyon's additions to the post, (don't apologise Peter for your entry, it's all part and parcel of the story) and a great pic of your grandad. Love it all. Keep 'em coming Hugh.</p>
<p>Just read this through again Hugh and found it as interesting as on first read. Thanks. I love to hear the recollections and links of others that these posts uncover, such as Geraldine "discovering she is an 'Elm Terrace' native". And Peter Bunyon's additions to the post, (don't apologise Peter for your entry, it's all part and parcel of the story) and a great pic of your grandad. Love it all. Keep 'em coming Hugh.</p> New aerial shot added at Fig,…tag:harringayonline.com,2023-08-24:844301:Comment:15500572023-08-24T08:05:50.935ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>New aerial shot added at Fig, 26.</p>
<p>New aerial shot added at Fig, 26.</p> New Fig. 17 added. Thanks Pet…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-11-09:844301:Comment:14618002021-11-09T19:12:16.044ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>New Fig. 17 added. Thanks Pete Bunyan. </p>
<p>New Fig. 17 added. Thanks Pete Bunyan. </p> So often the case.tag:harringayonline.com,2021-11-05:844301:Comment:14610032021-11-05T12:07:36.066ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>So often the case.</p>
<p>So often the case.</p> Sorry but just the odd Weddin…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-11-05:844301:Comment:14611032021-11-05T12:04:33.278ZPete Bunyanhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/PeteBunyan
<p>Sorry but just the odd Wedding photo and family Holiday pics, nothing related to Harringay.</p>
<p>Sorry but just the odd Wedding photo and family Holiday pics, nothing related to Harringay.</p> Thank you, Pete. Did any pict…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-11-05:844301:Comment:14611992021-11-05T11:58:03.261ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>Thank you, Pete. Did any pictures survive anywhere in dusty old family albums?</p>
<p>Thank you, Pete. Did any pictures survive anywhere in dusty old family albums?</p> I came across this article re…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-11-05:844301:Comment:14611952021-11-05T11:53:24.784ZPete Bunyanhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/PeteBunyan
<p>I came across this article recently as I was doing a little research into the Denchfield Family. My late Mother Jeannette Bunyan (nee Denchfield) was the daughter of Harold Frederick (known as Grandad Fred to me). Mum passed away earlier this year (aged 98) so I was trying to piece together her early years for use at her memorial service. I had no idea that William Denchfield was such a business man, I have vague recollections of the Yard where my Grandfather had some garages but little…</p>
<p>I came across this article recently as I was doing a little research into the Denchfield Family. My late Mother Jeannette Bunyan (nee Denchfield) was the daughter of Harold Frederick (known as Grandad Fred to me). Mum passed away earlier this year (aged 98) so I was trying to piece together her early years for use at her memorial service. I had no idea that William Denchfield was such a business man, I have vague recollections of the Yard where my Grandfather had some garages but little else springs to mind other than seeing Gt. Uncle Arthur a few times. Just a little family history for the record : Harold Frederick married Beatrice Eleanor Bayne (the Bayne's were another Harringay family) in August 1916 and lived at 354 West Green Road for some years later moving to 137 Chase Rd Southgate til Fred's death in 1966, they also had a Son Harold William (known as Pete!) born in 1919 who sadly passed back in 1976 but he may be the later Denchfield link you mentioned. Hopefully readers don't find this to boring but I felt I'd like to contribute a extra details about my Denchfield roots. Thanks again and I enjoyed the article greatly.</p> Hi, Re 114 Effingham Rd, Rae…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-17:844301:Comment:14513022021-09-17T13:39:42.633ZGerry Nhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/GerryNewby
<p>Hi, Re 114 Effingham Rd, Rae asks about "spires". I wonder if this refers to architectural <b><i>halberds</i></b> ? and not the roof structure? (which I believe WAS the architectural term for metal spikes added to the tip of roof tops) I feel sure you would have no problem re-instating ? . A quick google maps trip, & found a modern ceramic ( replacement?) point in Wightman Rd PS I have seen them refered to as halberds in old books, but the word is now out of use for them --- …</p>
<p>Hi, Re 114 Effingham Rd, Rae asks about "spires". I wonder if this refers to architectural <b><i>halberds</i></b> ? and not the roof structure? (which I believe WAS the architectural term for metal spikes added to the tip of roof tops) I feel sure you would have no problem re-instating ? . A quick google maps trip, & found a modern ceramic ( replacement?) point in Wightman Rd PS I have seen them refered to as halberds in old books, but the word is now out of use for them --- <a rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://goo.gl/maps/V9VLRmKSHk7bSMhVA" target="_blank">https://goo.gl/maps/V9VLRmKSHk7bSMhVA </a></p> Thanks, Hugh.
I agree the hou…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-02-26:844301:Comment:14139752021-02-26T17:19:59.335ZRae Spungleshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/RaeSpungles
<p>Thanks, Hugh.</p>
<p>I agree the houses look better proportioned with the "hats".</p>
<p>I did find the information about John Davis. And you're right it would all make a great TV series!</p>
<p>Thanks, Hugh.</p>
<p>I agree the houses look better proportioned with the "hats".</p>
<p>I did find the information about John Davis. And you're right it would all make a great TV series!</p> Thanks for he comment, Rae. …tag:harringayonline.com,2021-02-26:844301:Comment:14136822021-02-26T12:14:49.221ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>Thanks for he comment, Rae. Have you read <a href="https://harringayonline.com/group/historyofharringay/forum/topics/what-happened-to-the-men-who-built-the-ladder" rel="noopener" target="_blank">this article</a> about the men who built the houses on the Ladder? John Davis is covered in some detail in the comments section. </p>
<p>With regards to the hexagonal roof over our window bays, I think most Ladder houses had them since most had bays on both the ground and first floors with no rooms…</p>
<p>Thanks for he comment, Rae. Have you read <a href="https://harringayonline.com/group/historyofharringay/forum/topics/what-happened-to-the-men-who-built-the-ladder" target="_blank" rel="noopener">this article</a> about the men who built the houses on the Ladder? John Davis is covered in some detail in the comments section. </p>
<p>With regards to the hexagonal roof over our window bays, I think most Ladder houses had them since most had bays on both the ground and first floors with no rooms above. There are some exceptions, where the house style was just a simple pitched gable roof, like the two below (also built by John Davis) on the west side of Wightman between Hewitt and Seymour.</p>
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<p>I think the reason that some of the hexagonal bay roofs that were removed was just down to cost. Where roofs were poorly maintained, water would have got in and the roof joists rotted. It was very much cheaper simply to remove the pitched bay roof altogether.</p>
<p>They can certainly be reinstated. Google Street Views history allows us to track examples. The middle of the three houses in the terrace pictured below shows a reinstatement, done during a loft conversion. You can see that all three houses have also replaced their red concrete tiles with grey slate, which in my opinion looks many times better and much more suited to the houses.</p>
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