The Open Arms - Finsbury Park - five days a week from 17 May to 17 September - Harringay online2024-03-29T15:06:37Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/the-open-arms-finsbury-park-five-days-a-week-from-17-may-to-17?feed=yes&xn_auth=noSarcasm on line will turn rou…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-05-06:844301:Comment:14263522021-05-06T07:52:24.201ZJohn Dhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JohnD
<p>Sarcasm on line will turn round and bite you.</p>
<p>Sarcasm on line will turn round and bite you.</p> I wondered how long it would…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-05-05:844301:Comment:14262812021-05-05T21:52:23.401ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>I wondered how long it would be before you let people in on the true meaning of your comment!</p>
<p>I wondered how long it would be before you let people in on the true meaning of your comment!</p> "self-depracatory" - no. Doe…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-05-05:844301:Comment:14260282021-05-05T21:50:54.429ZKonrad Bhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/KonradBorowski
<p>"self-depracatory" - no. Doesn't this term refer back to the individual making the remark? Adrian Hackney's comment was "<span>My guess is that drafting all the reports and drawing up the plans and applications and dealing with the various local authorities, only to be frustrated by pig headed local nimbys, probably used up the best part of £270,000"</span></p>
<p><span>I don't see how this is"self-depracatory", it is a comment on those who objected to the plans.</span></p>
<p><span>If the…</span></p>
<p>"self-depracatory" - no. Doesn't this term refer back to the individual making the remark? Adrian Hackney's comment was "<span>My guess is that drafting all the reports and drawing up the plans and applications and dealing with the various local authorities, only to be frustrated by pig headed local nimbys, probably used up the best part of £270,000"</span></p>
<p><span>I don't see how this is"self-depracatory", it is a comment on those who objected to the plans.</span></p>
<p><span>If the comment had of been "My guess is that drafting all the reports and drawing up the plans and applications and dealing with the various local authorities, only to be frustrated <span style="text-decoration: underline;">by the local opposition</span>, probably used up the best part of £270,000" Then there wouldn't be any complaints. </span></p>
<p><span>Perhaps Adrian might explain his comments.</span></p>
<p><span>As for your "pearl clutching response" - can't you come up with something better than that?</span></p> Self deprecation or proud boa…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-05-05:844301:Comment:14261382021-05-05T21:41:40.407ZAdrian Hackneyhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/MacHeath
<p>Self deprecation or proud boast - take your pick.</p>
<p>Self deprecation or proud boast - take your pick.</p> I'd have thought that final c…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-05-05:844301:Comment:14262022021-05-05T21:22:10.693ZWillhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Will43
<p>I'd have thought that final comment was fairly obviously self-depracatory but the pearl clutching responses after it have proven me wrong. </p>
<p>I'd have thought that final comment was fairly obviously self-depracatory but the pearl clutching responses after it have proven me wrong. </p> Such an odd comment Adrian ca…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-05-05:844301:Comment:14262722021-05-05T19:10:00.015ZNickyhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Nicky833
<p>Such an odd comment Adrian calling people NIMBYs. <br></br>Not sure why you say that when you publicised the petition??</p>
<p>Personally I think it could have been great for one week but the idea of something like that running for four months relentlessly was just unrealistic. It would change the nature of the park for that whole period. The Peckham Rye Park event that Gala is running seems to be for a weekend only. That would be much more realistic. Hopefully the organisers will learn from…</p>
<p>Such an odd comment Adrian calling people NIMBYs. <br/>Not sure why you say that when you publicised the petition??</p>
<p>Personally I think it could have been great for one week but the idea of something like that running for four months relentlessly was just unrealistic. It would change the nature of the park for that whole period. The Peckham Rye Park event that Gala is running seems to be for a weekend only. That would be much more realistic. Hopefully the organisers will learn from this. </p> "pig headed local nimbys" ??…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-05-05:844301:Comment:14261252021-05-05T17:25:13.513ZKonrad Bhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/KonradBorowski
<p>"pig headed local nimbys" ?? - if you thought this why did you publicise the on-line petition?</p>
<p><a class="xg_icon xg_icon-permalink" href="https://harringayonline.com/xn/detail/844301:Comment:1425052" name="844301Comment1425052" rel="nofollow" title="Permalink to this Reply">Permalink</a> Reply by <a class="fn url" href="https://harringayonline.com/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=0pbvj9jpy76pp" rel="nofollow">Adrian Hackney</a> on <span class="timestamp">April 28, 2021 at…</span></p>
<p>"pig headed local nimbys" ?? - if you thought this why did you publicise the on-line petition?</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" name="844301Comment1425052" href="https://harringayonline.com/xn/detail/844301:Comment:1425052" title="Permalink to this Reply" class="xg_icon xg_icon-permalink">Permalink</a> Reply by <a rel="nofollow" href="https://harringayonline.com/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=0pbvj9jpy76pp" class="fn url">Adrian Hackney</a> on <span class="timestamp">April 28, 2021 at 7:58</span></p>
<div class="description" id="desc_844301Comment1425052"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>There is now a petition online for those wishing to object. <a rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://www.change.org/p/haringey-council-stop-the-pub-in-the-park" target="_blank">https://www.change.org/p/haringey-council-stop-the-pub-in-the-park</a></p>
<p>There were 135 objections to the planning application, 27 in support - so the "pig headed" won!</p>
<p>There were also 1009 signatories to the on-line petition.</p>
<p>With regard to the licensing application there were over 100 objections and one support.</p>
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The Islington document q…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-05-05:844301:Comment:14261932021-05-05T17:04:38.392ZKonrad Bhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/KonradBorowski
<p>Hi, </p>
<p>The Islington document quoted by Gordon T relates to the planning application - I can't see any other document from Islington in the list of consultation comments.</p>
<p>With regard to the licensing application the Islington representation form is at page 129 of the Public Reports Pack which is still available on the Haringey Council web site:…</p>
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<p>Hi, </p>
<p>The Islington document quoted by Gordon T relates to the planning application - I can't see any other document from Islington in the list of consultation comments.</p>
<p>With regard to the licensing application the Islington representation form is at page 129 of the Public Reports Pack which is still available on the Haringey Council web site:</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://www.minutes.haringey.gov.uk/documents/g9898/Public%20reports%20pack%2004th-May-2021%2019.00%20Special%20Licensing%20Sub%20Committee.pdf?T=10" target="_blank">https://www.minutes.haringey.gov.uk/documents/g9898/Public%20report...</a></p>
<p>That representation was quite critical of the event proposal. It would probably have been even more critical if the increase in attendance from 200 to 700 had of been known at the time of submission - 8 April.</p>
<p>The conclusion was that:</p>
<div class="page" title="Page 134"><div class="section"><div class="layoutArea"><div class="column"><p><span>"This application should be refused<br/>If the application was to be granted it should be limited to as follows:</span></p>
<p><span>•</span> <span>The site enclosed by a fully secure, staffed and gated perimeter fence so the site can be managed with all the current Covid guidelines; and</span></p>
<p><span>•</span> <span>Alcohol must not be taken off the premises<br/></span><span>•</span> <span>Islington would be consulted on the detail of access and egress from the event</span></p>
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<p><span>NB - I couldn't find any representation from Hackney.</span></p>
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</div> I'd have thought that a profe…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-05-05:844301:Comment:14261892021-05-05T16:53:27.673ZPeterPiperhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/PeterPiper
<p>I'd have thought that a professionally competent outfit would've had some insurance cover for such an eventually that has occurred. No?</p>
<p>I'd have thought that a professionally competent outfit would've had some insurance cover for such an eventually that has occurred. No?</p> Whether you agree with the pr…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-05-05:844301:Comment:14261182021-05-05T16:46:18.740ZJohn Dhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JohnD
<p>Whether you agree with the proposal or not, that last comment is disgraceful.</p>
<p>Whether you agree with the proposal or not, that last comment is disgraceful.</p>