Reclaim These Streets vigil in Priory Park cancelled - Harringay online2024-03-28T16:43:00Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/reclaim-the-streets-vigil-in-priory-park-tomorrow?id=844301%3ATopic%3A1416335&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI can see what you are sayin…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-03-15:844301:Comment:14170272021-03-15T13:06:38.536ZEsther Littlehttps://harringayonline.com/profile/EstherLittle
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<p>I can see what you are saying Stav but I think it's important to point out that by failing to engage with Reclaim These Streets (who had stewards arranged to ensure social distancing) the Met left a vacuum which was filled by Sisters Uncut for political purposes. Sadly this has over shadowed the original purpose of the vigil to pay tribute to Sarah Everard. </p>
<p>The police also allowed numerous press photographers onto the bandstand who did not bother with social distancing or in…</p>
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<p>I can see what you are saying Stav but I think it's important to point out that by failing to engage with Reclaim These Streets (who had stewards arranged to ensure social distancing) the Met left a vacuum which was filled by Sisters Uncut for political purposes. Sadly this has over shadowed the original purpose of the vigil to pay tribute to Sarah Everard. </p>
<p>The police also allowed numerous press photographers onto the bandstand who did not bother with social distancing or in many cases face coverings.</p>
<p>Other vigils passed off peacefully on Saturday because the respective police forces engaged with organisers. </p>
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<p></p> Priti Patel's response is a f…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-03-15:844301:Comment:14171302021-03-15T12:44:06.248ZStav Aristideshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/StavAristides
<p>Priti Patel's response is a failure of leadership. She should be backing Cressida Dick to the hilt. There's an element of politicians expressing the views they think people want to hear rather than what's right. The small group of women arrested had ample opportunity to comply with the law. </p>
<p>Would we be complaining if it was a bunch of football fans, BNP/anarchist thugs were forcefully arrested after refusing to disperse? There isn't one rule for people with a just cause and another…</p>
<p>Priti Patel's response is a failure of leadership. She should be backing Cressida Dick to the hilt. There's an element of politicians expressing the views they think people want to hear rather than what's right. The small group of women arrested had ample opportunity to comply with the law. </p>
<p>Would we be complaining if it was a bunch of football fans, BNP/anarchist thugs were forcefully arrested after refusing to disperse? There isn't one rule for people with a just cause and another rule for those we don't sympathise with.</p>
<p>I'll leave it there. I know you started this thread with the best of intentions. This damn covid virus creates so many problems.</p> 'Law only applies to other pe…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-03-15:844301:Comment:14172152021-03-15T12:27:28.248ZStav Aristideshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/StavAristides
<p>'Law only applies to other people', eh Will? </p>
<p>'Law only applies to other people', eh Will? </p> "Look what you made me do", r…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-03-15:844301:Comment:14170252021-03-15T12:19:15.693ZWillhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Will43
<p>"Look what you made me do", right Stav? </p>
<p>"Look what you made me do", right Stav? </p> I read " Proportionality? No…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-03-15:844301:Comment:14172102021-03-15T11:56:00.573ZJohn Dhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JohnD
<p>I read " <span>Proportionality? Not a good look" as an opinion. Perhaps I misunderstood.</span></p>
<p>I read " <span>Proportionality? Not a good look" as an opinion. Perhaps I misunderstood.</span></p> On balance, yes. They were gi…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-03-15:844301:Comment:14172482021-03-15T11:55:46.032ZStav Aristideshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/StavAristides
<p>On balance, yes. They were given several opportunities to disperse. They refused. They were put under arrest and resisted. What alternative do the police have other than using reasonable force as the last resort? That's their job. They're surrounded by cameras and journalists. They can't turn a blind eye. What message would that send? Unfortunately, some people think the law doesn't apply to them.</p>
<p>Seeking to demonise the police doesn't exactly help our cause here. They do more than…</p>
<p>On balance, yes. They were given several opportunities to disperse. They refused. They were put under arrest and resisted. What alternative do the police have other than using reasonable force as the last resort? That's their job. They're surrounded by cameras and journalists. They can't turn a blind eye. What message would that send? Unfortunately, some people think the law doesn't apply to them.</p>
<p>Seeking to demonise the police doesn't exactly help our cause here. They do more than any other organisation to protect women (and men) from violence.</p> It wasn't sarcasm, It was a g…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-03-15:844301:Comment:14170202021-03-15T11:52:08.174ZJohn Dhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JohnD
<p>It wasn't sarcasm, It was a genuine thank you.</p>
<p>It wasn't sarcasm, It was a genuine thank you.</p> Don't put your opinion as if…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-03-15:844301:Comment:14170162021-03-15T11:47:33.891ZGordon Thttps://harringayonline.com/profile/GordonT
<p>Don't put your opinion as if it's the opposite to mine. I didn't offer <em><strong>any</strong></em> opinion.</p>
<p>Don't put your opinion as if it's the opposite to mine. I didn't offer <em><strong>any</strong></em> opinion.</p> Your words and meaning where…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-03-15:844301:Comment:14171272021-03-15T11:30:19.475ZStav Aristideshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/StavAristides
<p>Your words and meaning where clear. You're implying that the police response was out of proportion. It was not. </p>
<p>Your words and meaning where clear. You're implying that the police response was out of proportion. It was not. </p> The sarcasm doesn’t help John…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-03-15:844301:Comment:14171242021-03-15T11:17:10.165ZHarringay 4evahttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AbiTownsend
<p>The sarcasm doesn’t help John. As Esther says, we’re just tired of being expected to adjust our behaviour, feel the constant fear & still then come up with the solutions to stop men harassing & assaulting women. Let me put it this way, if your home gets burgled, who would you ask for advice to prevent it happening again, the home owner, or a burglar? </p>
<p>The sarcasm doesn’t help John. As Esther says, we’re just tired of being expected to adjust our behaviour, feel the constant fear & still then come up with the solutions to stop men harassing & assaulting women. Let me put it this way, if your home gets burgled, who would you ask for advice to prevent it happening again, the home owner, or a burglar? </p>