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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Haringey Welcome with our partners The Museum of Homelessness have so far this year supported 17 residents with newly acquired refugee status to secure housing in Haringey.

We're very proud that our community's generosity has enabled us to achieve this. https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/p/prevent-refugee-homelessness-in-har...

Now as funds run low we are calling on our neighbours and fellow residents to support the fund again if you can, so we can continue this work. Sadly the threat of homelessness and destitution for those receiving a positive asylum decision continues. New refugees are given 28 days to claim Universal Credit, find work, and find a place to live, before eviction from their asylum accommodation. This after an extended period of months or years in limbo without the right to work, living on £9 a week for those in hotels, and less than £50 for those who are self-catering.

This winter we're appealing again for your support. The Crowdfunder will stay open for donations as long as the need continues. We have also recently opened it up for anyone who wishes to set up their own linked fundraiser page and raise funds for us by doing a sponsored activity such as a cake bake, half marathon, karaoke, pub quiz, etc - just click the 'start fundraising' button. We'd also appreciate any shares across your networks!

Many thanks and big up to the Haringey community! Further information on the Haringey Welcome site here. And on the Museum of Homelessness site here.

Tags for Forum Posts: homelessness, migrant justice, refugees

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I'll say it again. What about our own homeless living in freezing conditions on the streets inc veterans.  

Why was my earlier post removed. Is it not acceptable to point this out? And if not, why?

I agree with you 100% Doodle, refugees shouldn't get priority over our own homeless and veterans .

Refugees are just able bodied people taking advantage of the UKs lax system , and they don't deserve a penny of any money that the UK government freely hands out .

Give that money to British pensioners and veterans who have contributed to the UK .

Well said John. Lets see if our replies are deleted like my original reply was?

Not all refugees John. Some genuinely need our help and a refuge from war, famine and risk of death. They apply through the right channels and if forced to flee claim refugee or asylum status in the first safe location.

That's not to be confused with illegal immigrants who sneak into the country or abuse the asylum system. 

Why does it have to be one thing or another?

Thankyou, I came in to the comments to say the exact same thing! And the very first comment from yourself says it all! 

I see the haters are at it again. Always attacking the weakest and most desperate. Not even reading the above statement. Never asking why homelessness exists in the first place. If you care so much about ex servicemen being homeless then ask why the state that employed them hasn't looked after them? Why are benefits so low and housing benefit been cut? Why are rents so high? These haters never actually do any work to help the homeless but bleat about those that do.

Haters. Here we go again, the same old tropes. I don't hate anyone so why use that term? By using that term you are diminishing the power of that word. It's not hateful to make a point such as the one I did. There's plenty of homeless people in this country and a large proportion of those have worked at some point in their past or have served. Why wasn't the post inclusive of them? A lot of people of a certain political mindset preach about inclusivity but the reality is their exclusivity. It's also interesting to note that this post has existed for a couple of days but now people are contributing whereas previously they said nothing in response to the original post. Go and contribute to the crowdfund if you are so for this endeavour. Good luck to them. My issue is that my original post was deleted. Why? It wasn't hateful, just not aligned to the political principles of most who use this forum. 

Well if it wasn't for decades of uncontrolled immigration we would have had enough money to support ex servicemen and women as well as genuine refugees and those who have been granted asylum.

We do need some high skilled migration but unfortunately much of what we've had has been the opposite. The government has recently, and finally, highlighted the obvious, that the majority of recent arrivals are fiscally negative which means they cost more over their lifetime than they contribute. Yes, there are some surgeons, bankers and engineers but there are many more unskilled or low skilled people who earn very little so pay little if any tax but use infrastructure, NHS, dentists, social and private rental housing and who have dependents who don't work at all and children who need schooling.

For that reason there isn't now enough money to go around, services are stretched (if not broken) and we have to prioritise expenditure chosing one thing over another. Our standards of living have been diminished.

Doodle and John, yes, your posts will be deleted again as will mine. We will be called names but we know what's going on and others know too.

That's not to say we shouldn't help people already here.

I completely agree with you Esther. 

It's interesting how similar your arguments are to those made when the Cohens first arrived here in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/teach/class-clips-video/articles/zbks7nb

It's been great to watch the development and use of the area around the Museum of Homelessness in Finsbury Park over the past year. I'm happy to contribute to the crowdfund. Good luck Tanya.

A few thousand Jews over several decades who didn't burden the state (because there was no state welfare) is a very different kettle of fish JamesN. 

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