Oxford Street to be pedestrianised by 2020 ... so Wightman Rd ... - Harringay online2024-03-29T07:09:32Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/oxford-street-to-be-pedestrianised-by-2020-so-wightman-rd?commentId=844301%3AComment%3A899841&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIt would appear that the what…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-07-29:844301:Comment:9044572016-07-29T11:22:33.426ZAntoinettehttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AntoinetteVCarter
<p>It would appear that the whatdotheyknow.com requester has reinstated their FOI request to Haringey Council for a copy of the submitted version of the report. The Council now have until 26th August to come up with a response. If consulted, I do hope that LCSP or whoever it was who submitted the report does not attempt to frustrate the release of the document under FOI, because I would consider that highly suspicious. For me, the copy that was submitted to the Council is the only version…</p>
<p>It would appear that the whatdotheyknow.com requester has reinstated their FOI request to Haringey Council for a copy of the submitted version of the report. The Council now have until 26th August to come up with a response. If consulted, I do hope that LCSP or whoever it was who submitted the report does not attempt to frustrate the release of the document under FOI, because I would consider that highly suspicious. For me, the copy that was submitted to the Council is the only version that matters, so that's what I will wait to see.</p> Couldn't reply to you Ant, bu…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-07-29:844301:Comment:9043382016-07-29T09:33:23.016ZAntoinettehttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AntoinetteVCarter
<p>Couldn't reply to you Ant, but in my view, a few broken wing mirrors are a sacrifice worth making. I can't accept though that making Wightman Road one way is a good idea particularly is you make it one way going from north to south as you would then have all the Jewsons lorries travelling the full length of Wightman Road rather than arriving at the Endymion end where their depot is.</p>
<p>Couldn't reply to you Ant, but in my view, a few broken wing mirrors are a sacrifice worth making. I can't accept though that making Wightman Road one way is a good idea particularly is you make it one way going from north to south as you would then have all the Jewsons lorries travelling the full length of Wightman Road rather than arriving at the Endymion end where their depot is.</p> It will be released to wider…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-07-28:844301:Comment:9041492016-07-28T13:51:49.353Zanthttps://harringayonline.com/profile/ant
<p><em>It will be released to wider circulation when we feel it is ready.</em></p>
<p>Who is "we", and how do we get to be included in that? I'm an LCSP member and Ladder resident may I be included in the discussion around it please?</p>
<p>And I'm not accusing you, I'm offering to help.</p>
<p><em>It will be released to wider circulation when we feel it is ready.</em></p>
<p>Who is "we", and how do we get to be included in that? I'm an LCSP member and Ladder resident may I be included in the discussion around it please?</p>
<p>And I'm not accusing you, I'm offering to help.</p> Lets separate the two issues…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-07-28:844301:Comment:9039222016-07-28T13:43:33.397ZJustin Guesthttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JustinGuest
<p>Lets separate the two issues here guys.</p>
<p>The Document:</p>
<p>It will be released to wider circulation when we feel it is ready. I do not think that is unreasonable. All we have asked for is a little breathing space.</p>
<p>Accountability:</p>
<p>What I do-I report to the LCSP membership (as a body), and I make myself available to scrutiny under appropriate circumstance to any member or fellow Harringay resident (on either side of Green Lanes).</p>
<p>What I do not do- respond to…</p>
<p>Lets separate the two issues here guys.</p>
<p>The Document:</p>
<p>It will be released to wider circulation when we feel it is ready. I do not think that is unreasonable. All we have asked for is a little breathing space.</p>
<p>Accountability:</p>
<p>What I do-I report to the LCSP membership (as a body), and I make myself available to scrutiny under appropriate circumstance to any member or fellow Harringay resident (on either side of Green Lanes).</p>
<p>What I do not do- respond to demands by (3) users of HoL because they feel they have a grievance that I have tried very hard to respond reasonably to. Hop up and down as much as you like guys...</p>
<p>If anyone has a problem with anything I have done feel free to bring it up in the appropriate forum, and vote me off/stand yourself and make yourselves accountable.</p>
<p>BTW. Does anyone know who the defender of democratic virtue <a href="https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ladder_community_safety_partners" target="_blank">J.Talyor (or is is S.Hartwright) is</a>...</p>
<p>BTW,</p> Not failing in anything Jessi…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-07-28:844301:Comment:9040412016-07-28T13:41:18.347ZSandihttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Sandi
Not failing in anything Jessica; have been involved with this from the start, so take it very seriously.
Not failing in anything Jessica; have been involved with this from the start, so take it very seriously. Hi Justin, what do you think…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-07-28:844301:Comment:9041452016-07-28T13:23:04.190Zanthttps://harringayonline.com/profile/ant
<p>Hi Justin, what do you think about suggesting to the council that we need another Ladder group to be on the council's traffic steering group if your group is so pressed for time?<br/><br/>In the meantime, if you've seriously not the time to keep informed the various people and groups which the council says your traffic group represents then let me volunteer to be your traffic group secretary and I can do that for you.</p>
<p>Hi Justin, what do you think about suggesting to the council that we need another Ladder group to be on the council's traffic steering group if your group is so pressed for time?<br/><br/>In the meantime, if you've seriously not the time to keep informed the various people and groups which the council says your traffic group represents then let me volunteer to be your traffic group secretary and I can do that for you.</p> Oh how the plot thickens.....…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-07-28:844301:Comment:9039152016-07-28T12:14:29.802ZAntoinettehttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AntoinetteVCarter
<p>Oh how the plot thickens..... I went to the whatdotheyknow FOI request website ready to submit my request and found this request was submitted but then also withdrawn just today.....</p>
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<p>Oh how the plot thickens..... I went to the whatdotheyknow FOI request website ready to submit my request and found this request was submitted but then also withdrawn just today.....</p>
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<div class="correspondence_text"><p>Dear Haringey Borough Council,</p>
<p>Could you please provide the original document sent to the Council by the Ladder Community Safety Partnership (LCSP) entitled 'Fresh Start' . The document relates to traffic issues in and around Harringay ward. I believe this document was submitted during the week ending July 22nd.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the group which submitted the document (LSCP) has not been forthcoming in making it public to those whose views it purports to represent.</p>
</div> Like you, we also have lives…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-07-28:844301:Comment:9040192016-07-28T11:42:12.599ZAntoinettehttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AntoinetteVCarter
<p>Like you, we also have lives to lead so popping round for a cuppa is not really want I want to do. As I said before, if it was ready enough to be submitted to the Council, it's ready enough for the rest of us to see. I also what to see the actual version as sent to the Council, not a draft nor a version which has subsequent amendments, but the actual version sent to the Council. Perhaps the only sure fire way of getting that is to ask the Council for it under FOI.</p>
<p>Like you, we also have lives to lead so popping round for a cuppa is not really want I want to do. As I said before, if it was ready enough to be submitted to the Council, it's ready enough for the rest of us to see. I also what to see the actual version as sent to the Council, not a draft nor a version which has subsequent amendments, but the actual version sent to the Council. Perhaps the only sure fire way of getting that is to ask the Council for it under FOI.</p> Jessica. We previously have p…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-07-28:844301:Comment:9039102016-07-28T11:38:01.406ZJustin Guesthttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JustinGuest
<p>Jessica. We previously have put shouts out for people to join the LCSP group- and indeed when we have our next meeting I will do so again to see if any members wish to attend. We are stronger for it if people who want to constructively engage and share their ideas work together. If anyone is willing to spend their time helping actively contribute to a Ladder community response in their spare time and get engaged, they are more than welcome to join us.</p>
<p>I have also said I am open to…</p>
<p>Jessica. We previously have put shouts out for people to join the LCSP group- and indeed when we have our next meeting I will do so again to see if any members wish to attend. We are stronger for it if people who want to constructively engage and share their ideas work together. If anyone is willing to spend their time helping actively contribute to a Ladder community response in their spare time and get engaged, they are more than welcome to join us.</p>
<p>I have also said I am open to anyone who wishes to call me or email me as to what we are doing and I regularly feedback at the regular LCSP meeting- the minutes of which contain notes on what I have feedback and are circulated to the membership. Jessica, you know me, you have my phone number, you know where I live. I utterly reject your assertion that you have no idea what is going on. Sometimes it is up to you to inform yourself- call me if you have a question, please do not shout into the internet and make out like I am acting like some kind of black box, unwilling to share. I do this in my spare time, after I work for a living and have cared for my kids. I do not have all day to sit waiting for a question on HoL so I can satisfy you, Ant and Antoinette. Call me!</p>
<p>As to the document, there is nothing hush hush, there are no secret plans to cast everything north of Frobisher among the Sodomites (Ant!), we simply want to catch all the spelling errors and formatting and other polishing that creep in when more than one person works on a shared document in their spare time.</p>
<p>I am not sure what you feel yourself not allowed to do Jessica, apart from one message a day or so ago, you and I have had no communication on this topic. My door is always open to you! You know that.</p> Maybe throw in a biscuit Just…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-07-28:844301:Comment:9040162016-07-28T11:35:01.647ZSandihttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Sandi
Maybe throw in a biscuit Justin??
Maybe throw in a biscuit Justin??