Newly Discovered - Harringay's Very First Edwardian Cinema - Harringay online2024-03-28T09:56:27Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/newly-discovered-harringay-s-very-first-edwardian-cinema?groupUrl=historyofharringay&commentId=844301%3AComment%3A1328785&groupId=844301%3AGroup%3A10&feed=yes&xn_auth=noGood class
respectable class…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-02-25:844301:Comment:14777132022-02-25T04:57:58.892ZJJ Bhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JJB
<p>Good class</p>
<p>respectable class</p>
<p>respectable working class….of people.</p>
<p>Good gosh!</p>
<p>Good class</p>
<p>respectable class</p>
<p>respectable working class….of people.</p>
<p>Good gosh!</p> I just came across this artic…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-02-23:844301:Comment:14775242022-02-23T11:59:44.972ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>I just came across this article in the <em>Bioscope</em> from 20th May 1909, pushing back the date by a month and offering an alternative name, the <em>Salisbury Picture Palace.</em></p>
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<p>I just came across this article in the <em>Bioscope</em> from 20th May 1909, pushing back the date by a month and offering an alternative name, the <em>Salisbury Picture Palace.</em></p>
<p><em><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/10147628882?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/10147628882?profile=RESIZE_710x" class="align-center"/></a></em></p> Thanks to Chris O'Rourke of L…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-11-05:844301:Comment:13349152020-11-05T13:28:24.096ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>Thanks to Chris O'Rourke of London Silent Cinemas for the image below (and thanks to Jeremy Buck for providing the link to Chris).</p>
<p>You'll see that in addition to the mention of the Salisbury Electric, the report mentions the Parkhurst Cinema. Having looked that up, I found that it was on a corner of the Holloway Road that many of us will be very familiar with. So I dug out a few photos and an outline history and have posted that…</p>
<p>Thanks to Chris O'Rourke of London Silent Cinemas for the image below (and thanks to Jeremy Buck for providing the link to Chris).</p>
<p>You'll see that in addition to the mention of the Salisbury Electric, the report mentions the Parkhurst Cinema. Having looked that up, I found that it was on a corner of the Holloway Road that many of us will be very familiar with. So I dug out a few photos and an outline history and have posted that <a href="https://harringayonline.com/photo/marlborough-parkhurst-theatres-holloway-road-1905" target="_blank" rel="noopener">here</a>.</p>
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<p></p> Yup. That would have been 38…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-11-03:844301:Comment:13330892020-11-03T12:34:05.917ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>Yup. That would have been 38 years after the cinema closed. </p>
<p>Yup. That would have been 38 years after the cinema closed. </p> My 1948 Post Office London Di…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-11-03:844301:Comment:13329932020-11-03T12:25:01.559ZRoy aka Smiffyhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/RoyakaSmiffy
<p>My 1948 Post Office London Directory shows 527 as three businesses.</p>
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<p>My 1948 Post Office London Directory shows 527 as three businesses.</p>
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<p>I wonder where he worked?</p>
<p>I wonder where he worked?</p> My Uncle on the 1911 census…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-10-31:844301:Comment:13298392020-10-31T12:39:47.427ZJanis Milneshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JanisMilnes
<p>My Uncle on the 1911 census Henry Arthur Carter of Culvert Road South Tottenham was a Bioscope Operator age 20.</p>
<p>My Uncle on the 1911 census Henry Arthur Carter of Culvert Road South Tottenham was a Bioscope Operator age 20.</p> Thanks, Jeremy. I wondered if…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-10-30:844301:Comment:13290122020-10-30T14:02:09.182ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>Thanks, Jeremy. I wondered if you'd be able to help. </p>
<p>50 seats sounds more like it fits the bill if it was in number 527. That 250 seats in <em>The Bioscope</em> sounded like a bit of a stretch.</p>
<p>I'd wondered if this type of cinema was overlooked as a rule in cinema histories. It seems a shame though, as they tell us both about the history of cinema in general as well as about our area.</p>
<p>I knew nothing of the 1909 act, Jeremy. For those, like me, who don't know it, …</p>
<p>Thanks, Jeremy. I wondered if you'd be able to help. </p>
<p>50 seats sounds more like it fits the bill if it was in number 527. That 250 seats in <em>The Bioscope</em> sounded like a bit of a stretch.</p>
<p>I'd wondered if this type of cinema was overlooked as a rule in cinema histories. It seems a shame though, as they tell us both about the history of cinema in general as well as about our area.</p>
<p>I knew nothing of the 1909 act, Jeremy. For those, like me, who don't know it, <a href="http://www.screenonline.org.uk/film/cinemas/sect1.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Screenonline has the following</a>:</p>
<blockquote>Under the Cinematograph Act of 1909, new regulations came into effect in January 1910 to improve safety. As the nitrate film stock being projected was highly inflammable, the Act required the provision of a fire-resistant projection booth (occasionally this was established behind the screen to provide 'rear projection'). This legislation greatly encouraged the spread of purpose-built picture houses.</blockquote>
<p>I wonder if this is what the new 'operating room' reported by <em>The Bioscope</em> was designed to deal with? The legislation <a href="https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Edw7/9/30/contents/enacted" target="_blank" rel="noopener">came into force on 1st January 1910.</a> So, the timing would have been right to fit with the reported works. Perhaps the room never got finished, or perhaps <em>The Coliseum</em> did just put them out of business.</p>
<p>What screenoline says about the Act encouraging purpose-built cinemas also rings very true locally. Both of Harringay's first two proper cinemas, <em>The Coliseum</em> and the <em>Premier Electric</em>, opened in 1910.</p>
<p><span>As I look at <a href="http://www.map.londonssilentcinemas.com/dhp-markers/electric-coliseum-10-salisbury-promenade-green-lanes-harringay/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Screenonline's record for <em>The Coliseum</em></a>, a slight nervousness about the accuracy of the records has crept in. They say of <em>The Coliseum</em> that:</span></p>
<blockquote>It was built on the former site of the Salisbury Electric Picture Hall.</blockquote>
<p>This contradicts the information they provide on the S<em>alisbury Electric Picture Hall</em> page and I'm pretty sure it's wrong. I've dropped them a note pointing out the possible error and asking if they have a copy of the 1909 police report, but I don't expect they will.</p> Great research Hugh. There's…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-10-30:844301:Comment:13287902020-10-30T11:05:42.182ZJeremybhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JeremyuBuck
<p>Great research Hugh. There's a website called London's Silent Cinemas which I don't think was around when you or I did research previously. The entry for Salisbury Picture Hall is here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.map.londonssilentcinemas.com/dhp-markers/salisbury-electric-picture-hall-527-green-lanes-harringay/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">www.map.londonssilentcinemas.com/dhp-markers/salisbury-elect...</a></p>
<p>I believe there were large numbers of similar shop conversions throughout…</p>
<p>Great research Hugh. There's a website called London's Silent Cinemas which I don't think was around when you or I did research previously. The entry for Salisbury Picture Hall is here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.map.londonssilentcinemas.com/dhp-markers/salisbury-electric-picture-hall-527-green-lanes-harringay/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">www.map.londonssilentcinemas.com/dhp-markers/salisbury-elect...</a></p>
<p>I believe there were large numbers of similar shop conversions throughout London , but many didn't last long, mainly because they couldn't meet the requirements of the Cinematograph Act 1909, or because better cinemas were built nearby, as you suggest regarding the Coliseum. Some cinema historians are not that interested in them, and don't include them in their cinema histories. A guy called Tony Fletcher has researched those in London and published his research in 3 volumes (!) published by Local History Publications.</p> I don't remember. In the 194…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-10-30:844301:Comment:13287852020-10-30T10:27:48.682ZGeraldinehttps://harringayonline.com/profile/GeraldineTaylorThomas
<p>I don't remember. In the 1940s 'my' side of Seymour/Green Lanes corner had Jolly's the grocers. 527 opposite made no impression on me. I don't remember hearing of a cinema but then as you say it was way way after the cinema's short stay.</p>
<p>I don't remember. In the 1940s 'my' side of Seymour/Green Lanes corner had Jolly's the grocers. 527 opposite made no impression on me. I don't remember hearing of a cinema but then as you say it was way way after the cinema's short stay.</p>