Hello Harringay onliners.
A while ago I opened a discussion about our constituency name of "Tottenham" not reflecting our area and proposed it's renamed "Haringey and Edmonton".
I wrote to Mr Lammy about it, and after a follow up email got an answer from his office. Here is the email trail as I think is it of interest to us all.
BME's email to Mr Lammy's website. 17th Nov 2011
... I emailed asking Mr Lammy to consider asking the Boundary Commission of England who are presently in consultation regarding boundary changes, to rename his constituency "Haringey and Edmonton" to better reflect the area and people he represents. ...with now only 18 days of the consultation left, I would like to press to matter and receive a reponse. Kind regards,
Mr Lammy's Parliament office. 18th Nov 2011
BME's reply 18th Nov 11
Thank you for you speedy reply.
Not that I am any friend of the local Labour party but... can we have some respect for our MP? I'm sure he wouldn't mind David but referring to someone by their surname alone is just rude and disrespectful.
Ofer, I agree with John on this. Regardless of politics, any elected MP in this country is entitled to a certain minimum level of respect.
By way of contrast, I am sometimes irritated by the reporting of those appearing before the courts being accorded levels of respect they do not deserve, eg. Mr Blogs had pleaded not guilty ... etc., it is preferably IMO, that there entire name be known, sans title.
Apologies all around, I thought it was the other way around and that using first name would be the disrespectful version, at least it is where I come from... No offence is intended, merely stating the facts.
On the other hand, I've taken up a good old English custom of addressing and referring to working and professional colleagues as well as trusted servants by their surname. Since Lammy persists in addressing me as "Dear friend", even when not seeking my vote, Lammy it is. Ofer, McMullan and Carter hail from a more deferential clime.
Eddie, a bit of courtesy costs nothing.
A youngster like yourself might not appreciate that its not about harking from an age of greater deference. Like Ofer, I'm an immigrant to this country and addressing by surnames only seems unnecessarily severe, unless we're talking about convicts.
Titles: call me old fashioned, but I will continue to regard Jeffrey Archer as Lord Archer, even though it is no longer justified and he would fully and accurately be described as the convicted perjurer Lord Archer; and (regrettably) on the local scene, Councillor Charles Adje as the disgraced Cllr. Adje.
Clive, I took it both you and John (even if no one else) would see through my minor bit of pisstaking at a silly bit of old formality which still persisted here in some quarters as late as the early 1980s. And I wouldn't have thought anyone would have been in danger of seeing New Zealand (any more than Australia or Ireland) as hotbeds of deference.
As soon as David Lammy stops sending me "Dear Friend" emails and letters, I shall start calling him Mr Lammy, David, Dave or whatever he prefers.
There is certainly irreverence in Australia. On learning that a very old NZ friend is now a Curate/Father/Reverend (sorry not really up with the nomenclature), an English friend quoted an Aussie expression, new on me, "ah ha, he's a Sky Pilot".
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