More Traffic Headed for Wightman - 2 days to Act - Harringay online2024-03-29T10:08:33Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/more-traffic-headed-for-wightman-2-days-to-act?commentId=844301%3AComment%3A1216427&feed=yes&xn_auth=noJohn, I think taking Adrian's…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-02-27:844301:Comment:12210682020-02-27T22:34:25.862ZElizabethhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/ElizabethAdams
<p>John, I think taking Adrian's "exactly the right traffic scheme for Wightman" in conjunction with "saving Hornsey town hall" means he isn't being 100% serious. I doubt anyone thinks Wightman is a good example of traffic management, except maybe the planners who imposed a scheme on us that is worse for pedestrians who want to cross the road, cyclists and even much maligned car users. </p>
<p>John, I think taking Adrian's "exactly the right traffic scheme for Wightman" in conjunction with "saving Hornsey town hall" means he isn't being 100% serious. I doubt anyone thinks Wightman is a good example of traffic management, except maybe the planners who imposed a scheme on us that is worse for pedestrians who want to cross the road, cyclists and even much maligned car users. </p> A lot of the time the route p…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-02-26:844301:Comment:12207862020-02-26T13:38:15.939ZAndrewAW1https://harringayonline.com/profile/Andrew499
<p>A lot of the time the route people take is just whatever is advised on Google or Waze or whatever.</p>
<p>If you look at Google's route for a Saturday afternoon from Ikea to Crouch End for instance it sends you along the ladder and Wightman to avoid the traffic.</p>
<p>A lot of the time the route people take is just whatever is advised on Google or Waze or whatever.</p>
<p>If you look at Google's route for a Saturday afternoon from Ikea to Crouch End for instance it sends you along the ladder and Wightman to avoid the traffic.</p> You don’t have to do that rat…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-02-26:844301:Comment:12207032020-02-26T13:17:02.410ZElizabeth Mhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Elizabethmackie
<p>You don’t have to do that rat run on wightman and the ladder roads if you want to go from turnpike lane to green lanes or west green road or indeed go up westbury ave towards IKEA. Just use the main roads and turn right or go straight on at the traffic lights. You are saving yourself only tiny amounts of time by rat running and causing misery to residents. Perhaps people need to be less selfish when they drive. Personally I’ve not used that method to go from Crouch End to Tottenham or IKEA…</p>
<p>You don’t have to do that rat run on wightman and the ladder roads if you want to go from turnpike lane to green lanes or west green road or indeed go up westbury ave towards IKEA. Just use the main roads and turn right or go straight on at the traffic lights. You are saving yourself only tiny amounts of time by rat running and causing misery to residents. Perhaps people need to be less selfish when they drive. Personally I’ve not used that method to go from Crouch End to Tottenham or IKEA . </p> Any car journeys undertaken i…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-02-26:844301:Comment:12208822020-02-26T13:06:10.953Zvaneskahttps://harringayonline.com/profile/vaneska
<p>Any car journeys undertaken in our central Crouch End household involve cabs. A cab ride to St Anns Hospital typically involves turning right into Wightman at the Turnpike Lane junction and then taking one of the ladder roads down to pick up St Ann's Rd off Green Lanes.</p>
<p>However, unlike Hugh, I am not of the opinion that Crouch End is used to a great degree for non-local rat-running, unlike Wightman etc. I just don't think it is a practical rat-running route although it <em>is</em> a…</p>
<p>Any car journeys undertaken in our central Crouch End household involve cabs. A cab ride to St Anns Hospital typically involves turning right into Wightman at the Turnpike Lane junction and then taking one of the ladder roads down to pick up St Ann's Rd off Green Lanes.</p>
<p>However, unlike Hugh, I am not of the opinion that Crouch End is used to a great degree for non-local rat-running, unlike Wightman etc. I just don't think it is a practical rat-running route although it <em>is</em> a major route to Muswell Hill. I noted on one of these threads that Adrian Essex gave some concrete figures for Tottenham Lane and also showed that traffic had reduced in the past few years. As someone who crosses central Crouch End roads on foot multiple times daily, I know the actual volume of traffic is not that great for a junction of 4 relatively major roads like this. The problem is that it doesn't take much for things to clog up: a mis-parked UPS van, a broken down bus, roadworks etc etc. This is why the closure of Middle Lane was a failure because it removed the key safety valve.</p>
<p></p> Let's say you're coming back…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-02-26:844301:Comment:12209602020-02-26T11:49:37.947ZJohn McMullanhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/bogan72
<p>Let's say you're coming back from Ikea in Tottenham/Edmonton to your abode in Crouch End. You could go all the way around the North Circular but it's just chaos from Green Lanes to the A109 so savvy people head through Tottenham Hale/Seven Sisters and along West Green Road where they are dumped out right opposite the <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Queen's Head</span>Dogtas on Green Lanes and continue around the back of Duckett's common and up Lausanne or Raleigh to Wightman and…</p>
<p>Let's say you're coming back from Ikea in Tottenham/Edmonton to your abode in Crouch End. You could go all the way around the North Circular but it's just chaos from Green Lanes to the A109 so savvy people head through Tottenham Hale/Seven Sisters and along West Green Road where they are dumped out right opposite the <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Queen's Head</span>Dogtas on Green Lanes and continue around the back of Duckett's common and up Lausanne or Raleigh to Wightman and then under the bridge and safe back in Crouch End. That simple trip around the back of the common avoids a staggering FOUR sets of traffic lights too.</p>
<p>North yes, North East and East, no. All because of the North Circular.</p> Elizabeth, do you not think C…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-02-25:844301:Comment:12207582020-02-25T19:13:19.049ZNick G-Thttps://harringayonline.com/profile/NicholasGriffinTorrington
<p>Elizabeth, do you not think Crouch Enders drive to Tottenham, avoiding Turnpike Lane and instead using the Ladder rung roads? I assure you, they do. </p>
<p>Elizabeth, do you not think Crouch Enders drive to Tottenham, avoiding Turnpike Lane and instead using the Ladder rung roads? I assure you, they do. </p> Most of the rat-run traffic i…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-02-25:844301:Comment:12206392020-02-25T19:10:17.788ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>Most of the rat-run traffic in Harringay & Crouch End isn't locals. Elizabeth. </p>
<p>John, our beef should be with the Council, not with our neighbours.</p>
<p>Most of the rat-run traffic in Harringay & Crouch End isn't locals. Elizabeth. </p>
<p>John, our beef should be with the Council, not with our neighbours.</p> Hi Zena
Is the member meetin…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-02-25:844301:Comment:12207572020-02-25T18:42:57.043ZPeter Purdiehttps://harringayonline.com/profile/PeterPurdie
<p>Hi Zena </p>
<p>Is the member meeting the Councillor briefing on Liveable Crouch End? Did you manage to get a place on the Project Board? </p>
<p>Look forward to feedback from the meeting.</p>
<p>Peter </p>
<p>Hi Zena </p>
<p>Is the member meeting the Councillor briefing on Liveable Crouch End? Did you manage to get a place on the Project Board? </p>
<p>Look forward to feedback from the meeting.</p>
<p>Peter </p> Which Crouch Enders was this?…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-02-25:844301:Comment:12208602020-02-25T18:25:01.268ZElizabeth Mhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Elizabethmackie
<p>Which Crouch Enders was this? Wightman Road isn’t a route that’s needed if you live in Crouch End. Potentially people in Stroud Green use it rather than Green Lanes if going north and eastwards but anyone kn crouch end has far better ways of going north. </p>
<p>Which Crouch Enders was this? Wightman Road isn’t a route that’s needed if you live in Crouch End. Potentially people in Stroud Green use it rather than Green Lanes if going north and eastwards but anyone kn crouch end has far better ways of going north. </p> As I've said earlier in this…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-02-25:844301:Comment:12208592020-02-25T18:04:29.889ZJohn McMullanhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/bogan72
<p>As I've said earlier in this conversation (and backed up with links), when there was the possibility of filtering on Wightman, itself surrounded by traffic mitigation measures, the people of Crouch End vociferously objected. No way am I going to support what they're after unless they allow Wightman to be filtered. I am also going to bend the ears of our local Councillors.</p>
<p>As I've said earlier in this conversation (and backed up with links), when there was the possibility of filtering on Wightman, itself surrounded by traffic mitigation measures, the people of Crouch End vociferously objected. No way am I going to support what they're after unless they allow Wightman to be filtered. I am also going to bend the ears of our local Councillors.</p>