Mid-terraced house prices in Duckett Road or surrounding roads in April 1991 - Harringay online2024-03-28T15:48:11Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/mid-terraced-house-prices-in-duckett-road-or-surrounding-roads-in?commentId=844301%3AComment%3A1415431&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi Maurice,
Did you have any…tag:harringayonline.com,2023-03-24:844301:Comment:15334562023-03-24T11:27:41.309Zfenellahttps://harringayonline.com/profile/fenellapledger
<p>Hi Maurice, </p>
<p>Did you have any success with your challenge?</p>
<p>I am interested in challenging my band also - I'm in Hampden Road and my house is in Band F which seems way too high!</p>
<p>Any help/ advice would be greatly appreciated</p>
<p>Thanks so much</p>
<p>Hi Maurice, </p>
<p>Did you have any success with your challenge?</p>
<p>I am interested in challenging my band also - I'm in Hampden Road and my house is in Band F which seems way too high!</p>
<p>Any help/ advice would be greatly appreciated</p>
<p>Thanks so much</p> No luck, Rob
LonRes data for…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-03-08:844301:Comment:14159712021-03-08T14:51:04.466ZMauricehttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Maurice
<p>No luck, Rob</p>
<p>LonRes data for that period in north London is non-existent </p>
<p>Castles in Hornsey may get back to me, but I very much doubt it</p>
<p>No luck, Rob</p>
<p>LonRes data for that period in north London is non-existent </p>
<p>Castles in Hornsey may get back to me, but I very much doubt it</p> Worth looking at, Karen, but…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-03-07:844301:Comment:14159482021-03-07T19:37:11.527ZMauricehttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Maurice
<p>Worth looking at, Karen, but I think you’ve missed the chance to appeal </p>
<p><a href="https://www.n-kesteven.gov.uk/_resources/assets/attachment/full/0/4717.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.n-kesteven.gov.uk/_resources/assets/attachment/full/0/4717.pdf</a></p>
<p>Worth looking at, Karen, but I think you’ve missed the chance to appeal </p>
<p><a href="https://www.n-kesteven.gov.uk/_resources/assets/attachment/full/0/4717.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.n-kesteven.gov.uk/_resources/assets/attachment/full/0/4717.pdf</a></p> Ok
If you’ve been following a…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-03-07:844301:Comment:14157782021-03-07T16:22:48.505ZMauricehttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Maurice
<p>Ok</p>
<p>If you’ve been following all the various threads, I posted a reply to Hugh within the hour highlighting a large £2.5m Crouch End mid terrace in band E (1 mile from me). Also, only 9% of properties in England are in band F and above. I think searching for freehold terraces in Stroud Green / Crouch End will get me the comparables data I’m seeking (though not the price data). If that property is E, mine should be in a lower band to E. </p>
<p>Ok</p>
<p>If you’ve been following all the various threads, I posted a reply to Hugh within the hour highlighting a large £2.5m Crouch End mid terrace in band E (1 mile from me). Also, only 9% of properties in England are in band F and above. I think searching for freehold terraces in Stroud Green / Crouch End will get me the comparables data I’m seeking (though not the price data). If that property is E, mine should be in a lower band to E. </p> Let me know how you get on. I…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-03-07:844301:Comment:14157212021-03-07T16:03:58.968ZRob Bhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/PercyPig
<p>Let me know how you get on. I also have another suggestion as I was involved in a project regarding sale prices for the period 1987-1992 (although not round here) but I suspect it would be a much more expensive route to go down! </p>
<p>Let me know how you get on. I also have another suggestion as I was involved in a project regarding sale prices for the period 1987-1992 (although not round here) but I suspect it would be a much more expensive route to go down! </p> tag:harringayonline.com,2021-03-07:844301:Comment:14156352021-03-07T15:43:12.361ZMauricehttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Maurice
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<p>You’ve hit the nail on the head, Hugh. Most of the F band houses in Duckett Road are on the south facing side of Duckett Road, between the river and Wightman Road. That’s why I can’t use immediately adjacent houses as comparables. Most of the other properties are in lower bands. </p>
<p>I’m pretty certain that, as Ladder houses were built 1880-1900, they would originally have had basements for coal. Google Maps satellite shows how uniform the houses are along Duckett Road. </p>
<p>The only…</p>
<p>You’ve hit the nail on the head, Hugh. Most of the F band houses in Duckett Road are on the south facing side of Duckett Road, between the river and Wightman Road. That’s why I can’t use immediately adjacent houses as comparables. Most of the other properties are in lower bands. </p>
<p>I’m pretty certain that, as Ladder houses were built 1880-1900, they would originally have had basements for coal. Google Maps satellite shows how uniform the houses are along Duckett Road. </p>
<p>The only way to get the true property band for a house is by getting transactions data (first best) or advertised prices (second best), for the period the valuation exercise relates to (1991 - 1993). It’s best not to pull the trigger and formally ask for a revaluation until there’s a watertight case: any overpaid tax will be refunded, so patience is worthwhile. </p>
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<p>I think I will conduct further data analysis of the valuation office banding data from Duckett to Umfreville and Duckett to Warham. With 7 roads, that’s circa 700 properties. I’ll be able to see whether the F properties are located along the street, the difference in proportion of F properties, whether this is statistically significant etc. Across England, only 9% of properties are in band F and above!!!</p>
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<p>As an illustration of how busted the system is, this property (worth twice as much as one in Duckett Road) is in band E!!</p>
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<p></p> Thanks for these suggestions,…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-03-07:844301:Comment:14157752021-03-07T14:57:17.571ZMauricehttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Maurice
<p>Thanks for these suggestions, Rob. I’ll follow up. </p>
<p>The sceptic in me says LonRes is highly unlikely to have anything more than a few data points back to 1974, less likely still in Harringay. </p>
<p>I’ll also give Pickett a call.</p>
<p>Nothing ventured, nothing gained.</p>
<p>Thanks for these suggestions, Rob. I’ll follow up. </p>
<p>The sceptic in me says LonRes is highly unlikely to have anything more than a few data points back to 1974, less likely still in Harringay. </p>
<p>I’ll also give Pickett a call.</p>
<p>Nothing ventured, nothing gained.</p> As a follow up to this I migh…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-03-07:844301:Comment:14157672021-03-07T12:08:38.757ZRob Bhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/PercyPig
<p>As a follow up to this I might suggest speaking to <a href="https://www.prickettandellis.com/" target="_blank">https://www.prickettandellis.com/</a> as they are the only local agent I can immediately think of that have a valuation department </p>
<p>As a follow up to this I might suggest speaking to <a href="https://www.prickettandellis.com/" target="_blank">https://www.prickettandellis.com/</a> as they are the only local agent I can immediately think of that have a valuation department </p> Hi Maurice
have you investiga…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-03-07:844301:Comment:14157092021-03-07T11:32:20.177ZRob Bhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/PercyPig
<p>Hi Maurice</p>
<p>have you investigated whether these data are held by LonRes? A paid for sales and market data company used by those in this field. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.lonres.com/public/products/sales-archive" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.lonres.com/public/products/sales-archive</a></p>
<p>As an individual I doubt you can get an account but you might speak to some local agents to see who has a lonres account and if they would undertake some paid research for…</p>
<p>Hi Maurice</p>
<p>have you investigated whether these data are held by LonRes? A paid for sales and market data company used by those in this field. </p>
<p><a rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://www.lonres.com/public/products/sales-archive" target="_blank">https://www.lonres.com/public/products/sales-archive</a></p>
<p>As an individual I doubt you can get an account but you might speak to some local agents to see who has a lonres account and if they would undertake some paid research for you. </p>