It will only ever be Black Boy Lane - Harringay online2024-03-29T07:50:10Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/it-will-only-ever-be-blaxk-boy-lane?commentId=844301%3AComment%3A1526431&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAlan, all you did was point o…tag:harringayonline.com,2023-02-01:844301:Comment:15266182023-02-01T13:48:37.477ZSharhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/sharringay
<p>Alan, all you did was point out that I could go look for other issues if I was interested, so apologies for not having done a full background check on you and your beliefs beyond this thread. I still haven't undertaken this myself but will happily take your word for things you say about yourself.</p>
<p>Thanks for clarifying that you have written about other issues, and for your contributions. I do agree that small matters can be very instructive about bigger issues.</p>
<p>Shar really is my…</p>
<p>Alan, all you did was point out that I could go look for other issues if I was interested, so apologies for not having done a full background check on you and your beliefs beyond this thread. I still haven't undertaken this myself but will happily take your word for things you say about yourself.</p>
<p>Thanks for clarifying that you have written about other issues, and for your contributions. I do agree that small matters can be very instructive about bigger issues.</p>
<p>Shar really is my name by the way, it's not a pseudonym. (Should I have gone with Brown Boy?)</p>
<p>I just don't care to use my full legal name on a website publicly accessible on the Internet as it's an uncommon combination and having been harassed in the past I prefer not broadcasting where I live. Happy to DM my full name to anyone who really wants to know. Hugh has verified me as a member and several members on here know me or have met me personally. </p> You can't put a price on Engl…tag:harringayonline.com,2023-02-01:844301:Comment:15265092023-02-01T13:35:26.868ZSharhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/sharringay
<p>You can't put a price on English heritage, Jon :) </p>
<p>You can't put a price on English heritage, Jon :) </p> Shar - You have no reason for…tag:harringayonline.com,2023-02-01:844301:Comment:15264392023-02-01T12:38:09.452ZAlan Stantonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AlanStanton
<p>Shar - You have no reason for saying that I <em>"really believe this is the only issue at Haringey Council worth discussing</em> *. That statement is absurd, not least because I actually wrote the opposite. Making it plain that there are many more issues. That <em>"it's not too hard to search online for alleged wastage by [our] local council. The Ham and High newspaper is a useful source. As is this site. Also Twitter and What Do They Know website."</em><br></br><br></br>I post here and on other…</p>
<p>Shar - You have no reason for saying that I <em>"really believe this is the only issue at Haringey Council worth discussing</em> *. That statement is absurd, not least because I actually wrote the opposite. Making it plain that there are many more issues. That <em>"it's not too hard to search online for alleged wastage by [our] local council. The Ham and High newspaper is a useful source. As is this site. Also Twitter and What Do They Know website."</em><br/><br/>I post here and on other websites under my full name. i don't use pseudonyms and anyone can check out what I "<em>really do believe"</em> .</p>
<p>You comment that there may be some <em>"reasons to offer about why this particular expenditure has caught their attention"</em>. Why they <em>"care about"</em> this. <br/><br/>Let me make it plain that a number of things make me <em>"care about"</em> how our Council spends our - i.e. public = money. The issue of scale is important and if you had followed up on my suggestions you would have seen that I and others had been publicly raising matters such as dubious property deals totalling many millions. But what I <em>"really believe"</em> is that even very localised and minor issues do and must matter. In fact the smaller issues often provide a window or even small doorways into understanding far larger issues.</p> I was confidently assured on…tag:harringayonline.com,2023-02-01:844301:Comment:15265052023-02-01T11:43:20.346ZJon Lhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JonLyne
<p>I was confidently assured on this forum that the cost was going to be at least £500k. Something must have gone terribly wrong. I hope the council aren't cheaping out on us.</p>
<p>I was confidently assured on this forum that the cost was going to be at least £500k. Something must have gone terribly wrong. I hope the council aren't cheaping out on us.</p> Programme gives latest Counci…tag:harringayonline.com,2023-02-01:844301:Comment:15266482023-02-01T09:26:57.939ZEMC2https://harringayonline.com/profile/E290
<p>Programme gives latest Council estimate on cost "Under £106,000"...</p>
<p>Programme gives latest Council estimate on cost "Under £106,000"...</p> Oh would it were that things…tag:harringayonline.com,2023-02-01:844301:Comment:15264322023-02-01T09:14:31.041ZRosamund Tomlinshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/RosamundTomlins
<p>Oh would it were that things be so changed as you may imagine; or maybe you have a different understanding or definition.<br></br>A useful article states "<span>Having white privilege and recognizing it is not racist. But white privilege exists because of historic, enduring racism and biases." …<br></br><a href="https://www.learningforjustice.org/magazine/fall-2018/what-is-white-privilege-really" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"></a></span></p>
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<p>Oh would it were that things be so changed as you may imagine; or maybe you have a different understanding or definition.<br/>A useful article states "<span>Having white privilege and recognizing it is not racist. But white privilege exists because of historic, enduring racism and biases." <br/><a rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://www.learningforjustice.org/magazine/fall-2018/what-is-white-privilege-really" target="_blank"></a></span></p>
<p><span><a rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://www.learningforjustice.org/magazine/fall-2018/what-is-white-privilege-really" target="_blank">https://www.learningforjustice.org/magazine/fall-2018/what-is-white...</a></span></p>
<p>Leaving aside the financial considerations for a moment; one point is that Queen Henrietta, member of one of the most privileged families to exist at the time, continuing today, noticed her son's appearance & delighted in giving him, or teasing him with, such a nickname - whether she herself was biased or racist in any way isn't the point that's relevant today. It's not acceptable to simply say, "Well, Henrietta didn't mean it that way, so it's OK", partly because we can't possibly know how she felt deep down, or why it occurred to her to make such a distinction, but, today, to make a big deal out of a person's appearance, or more to the point, to call someone black who isn't, or who may have mixed or unknown heritage, or even to pretend to be so today could viably cause offence; that much is recognised, however much it might appear innocuous on the surface, or however much one might want to wish the connotations of unconscious bias away, there are wider implications that would be better addressed rather than perpetuated.</p> Radio 4, this morning, betwee…tag:harringayonline.com,2023-02-01:844301:Comment:15266142023-02-01T09:06:32.133ZEMC2https://harringayonline.com/profile/E290
<p>Radio 4, this morning, between 9 & 9.30, More or Less about to look at the cost of the renaming.</p>
<p>Radio 4, this morning, between 9 & 9.30, More or Less about to look at the cost of the renaming.</p> No, she says that no black pe…tag:harringayonline.com,2023-02-01:844301:Comment:15264312023-02-01T08:49:24.056ZMichael Andersonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/17bathgate
<p>No, she says that no black people were involved which will come as a surprise to Mr Ejifor. She also has an interesting video questioning whether we live in a virtual simulation and thinks we live somewhere called the city council of Tottenham borough. Her insights are on par with those of my cat.</p>
<p>No, she says that no black people were involved which will come as a surprise to Mr Ejifor. She also has an interesting video questioning whether we live in a virtual simulation and thinks we live somewhere called the city council of Tottenham borough. Her insights are on par with those of my cat.</p> Why are we looking to Canada…tag:harringayonline.com,2023-02-01:844301:Comment:15266452023-02-01T08:48:38.203ZSharhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/sharringay
<p>Why are we looking to Canada and Turkey and Greece to learn how to English properly in Haringey? </p>
<p>Why are we looking to Canada and Turkey and Greece to learn how to English properly in Haringey? </p> 'Ebonscape' 's location?
Can…tag:harringayonline.com,2023-02-01:844301:Comment:15266122023-02-01T08:29:23.537ZGordon Thttps://harringayonline.com/profile/GordonT
<p>'Ebonscape' 's location? </p>
<p>Canada.</p>
<p>'Ebonscape' 's location? </p>
<p>Canada.</p>