Incident @ top of West Green Rd (UPDATED) - Harringay online2024-03-29T15:34:14Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/incident-top-of-west-green-rd-police-have-taped-off?commentId=844301%3AComment%3A1514480&feed=yes&xn_auth=noVery sorry I missed your (now…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-11-13:844301:Comment:15158342022-11-13T15:17:21.007ZAndrewhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Andrewgoldstone
<p>Very sorry I missed your (now obvious) point. And of course, you're right. But it did give me a chance to pivot the discussion towards the future of truly driverless cars where, on very rare occasions, it will be right to blame the car.</p>
<p>Very sorry I missed your (now obvious) point. And of course, you're right. But it did give me a chance to pivot the discussion towards the future of truly driverless cars where, on very rare occasions, it will be right to blame the car.</p> Yes Andrew I know there are n…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-11-12:844301:Comment:15159082022-11-12T23:37:22.990ZLizhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Liz
<p>Yes Andrew I know there are no driverless cars. My point is about the way that the news reports people are killed or injured by cars not drivers. The *car* stopped at the scene and no arrests were made as opposed to *the driver stopped at the scene and was not arrested* - the way we report these things influences our ability to distance ourself from the truth of what happened here. Accident it almost certainly was but it was a human who ran over and killed another human using a ton of…</p>
<p>Yes Andrew I know there are no driverless cars. My point is about the way that the news reports people are killed or injured by cars not drivers. The *car* stopped at the scene and no arrests were made as opposed to *the driver stopped at the scene and was not arrested* - the way we report these things influences our ability to distance ourself from the truth of what happened here. Accident it almost certainly was but it was a human who ran over and killed another human using a ton of lethal metal. The distancing language used by news reports of traffic accidents shields us from being reminded of that </p> Andrew, I’m looking forward t…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-11-12:844301:Comment:15160232022-11-12T19:12:15.145Zandy hhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/andrewhunt
<p>Andrew, I’m looking forward to it!! I’m already saving to buy two for my kids they’re 5 and 7 at the moment but it means I won’t need to walk them to school!!</p>
<p>Andrew, I’m looking forward to it!! I’m already saving to buy two for my kids they’re 5 and 7 at the moment but it means I won’t need to walk them to school!!</p> There are no driverless cars…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-11-12:844301:Comment:15160062022-11-12T12:58:58.613ZAndrewhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Andrewgoldstone
<p>There are no driverless cars on the streets of London. It's not allowed yet although the technology is ready. The streets will be full of them soon enough and if this particular car had been driverless, I doubt very much that this tragic accident would have happened. Where they are being used, the stats overwhelmingly show that driverless cars are way safer than human drivers. Personally, I can't wait although I suspect we won't be allowed to rely on the full technology. Instead, we will be…</p>
<p>There are no driverless cars on the streets of London. It's not allowed yet although the technology is ready. The streets will be full of them soon enough and if this particular car had been driverless, I doubt very much that this tragic accident would have happened. Where they are being used, the stats overwhelmingly show that driverless cars are way safer than human drivers. Personally, I can't wait although I suspect we won't be allowed to rely on the full technology. Instead, we will be made to sit in the driver's seat, thereby negating many of the benefits, because people will be scared of the concept and the government will cave into those fears (at least at first). It will be a momentous and fascinating change. People will stop owning their own cars, so the streets will be liberated of parked cars, but there will probably be more journeys overall as Ubers et al become cheaper. </p> Why on earth would you want t…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-11-11:844301:Comment:15157942022-11-11T19:54:42.569Zpeter andersonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/peteranderson646
<p>Why on earth would you want to breathalyse it?</p>
<p>Why on earth would you want to breathalyse it?</p> "The car stopped at the scene…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-11-10:844301:Comment:15156202022-11-10T14:11:43.377ZOld-Age-Emporium(OAE)https://harringayonline.com/profile/OldAgeEmporiumOAE
<p>"<em><strong>The car stopped at the scene and no arrests have been made." </strong></em></p>
<p>Who should the police arrest in the case of a driverless car? And how do you breathalyse a robot?</p>
<p>"<em><strong>The car stopped at the scene and no arrests have been made." </strong></em></p>
<p>Who should the police arrest in the case of a driverless car? And how do you breathalyse a robot?</p> It also appears to be one of…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-11-10:844301:Comment:15156792022-11-10T13:33:12.729ZLizhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Liz
<p>It also appears to be one of those “driverless” cars. </p>
<p>Condolences to the family. That pedestrian is no doubt someone’s dad/husband/brother and the shock of losing him in this untimely manner must be awful for them. </p>
<p>It also appears to be one of those “driverless” cars. </p>
<p>Condolences to the family. That pedestrian is no doubt someone’s dad/husband/brother and the shock of losing him in this untimely manner must be awful for them. </p> I share your despair. Pedestr…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-11-10:844301:Comment:15156152022-11-10T12:43:02.344ZMichael Andersonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/17bathgate
<p>I share your despair. Pedestrians NEVER collide with hard steel cars, cars collide with soft, breakable pedestrians.</p>
<p>I share your despair. Pedestrians NEVER collide with hard steel cars, cars collide with soft, breakable pedestrians.</p> "A collision took place betwe…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-11-10:844301:Comment:15155092022-11-10T12:40:01.852ZOld-Age-Emporium(OAE)https://harringayonline.com/profile/OldAgeEmporiumOAE
<p><em><strong>"A collision took place between a pedestrian and a car on West Green Road" (myldn, Fri 4/11)</strong></em></p>
<p>Once again, could my fellow octogenarians please stop <em><strong>colliding*</strong></em> with cars, vans, trucks etc. You may think you're stronger and faster than they are, but we really can't beat them by <em><strong>colliding</strong></em> head on. We must up our game and get smarter.</p>
<p>*Latin, <em>collidere:</em> 'to meet in a hostile manner; 'to dash to…</p>
<p><em><strong>"A collision took place between a pedestrian and a car on West Green Road" (myldn, Fri 4/11)</strong></em></p>
<p>Once again, could my fellow octogenarians please stop <em><strong>colliding*</strong></em> with cars, vans, trucks etc. You may think you're stronger and faster than they are, but we really can't beat them by <em><strong>colliding</strong></em> head on. We must up our game and get smarter.</p>
<p>*Latin, <em>collidere:</em> 'to meet in a hostile manner; 'to dash to pieces'; 'to clash together violently'. (Langenscheidt)</p> The Evening Standard this wee…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-11-10:844301:Comment:15154012022-11-10T11:43:07.145ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>The Evening Standard this week <a href="https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/haringey-road-traffic-collision-appeal-london-b1038115.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">published the sad news</a> that the elderly pedestrian involved has died. The police are appealing for witnesses and dashcam footage.</p>
<p>Those with information are being asked to call the Serious Collision Investigation Unit on 020 8597 4874. Alternatively call 101 or tweet @MetCC ref CAD 4565/3 Nov.</p>
<p>The Evening Standard this week <a href="https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/haringey-road-traffic-collision-appeal-london-b1038115.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">published the sad news</a> that the elderly pedestrian involved has died. The police are appealing for witnesses and dashcam footage.</p>
<p>Those with information are being asked to call the Serious Collision Investigation Unit on 020 8597 4874. Alternatively call 101 or tweet @MetCC ref CAD 4565/3 Nov.</p>