How Hornsey dealt with the 'idle poor' two hundred years ago - Harringay online2024-03-29T06:30:48Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/how-hornsey-dealt-with-the-idle-poor-two-hundred-years-ago?groupUrl=historyofharringay&feed=yes&xn_auth=noFascinating. Nice piece of w…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-10-28:844301:Comment:14596892021-10-28T23:42:31.929ZDick Harrishttps://harringayonline.com/profile/DickHarris
<p>Fascinating. Nice piece of work.</p>
<p>Fascinating. Nice piece of work.</p> The Mr Prickett running the a…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-10-27:844301:Comment:14595352021-10-27T05:31:50.359ZLesley Rammhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/LesleyRamm
<p>The Mr Prickett running the auction is of Prickett and Ellis, Estate agents. Started as auctioneers in Highgate I believe, now with outlets in and around Hornsey</p>
<p>The Mr Prickett running the auction is of Prickett and Ellis, Estate agents. Started as auctioneers in Highgate I believe, now with outlets in and around Hornsey</p> A word of warning from over t…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-10-26:844301:Comment:14594192021-10-26T21:31:07.933ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>A word of warning from over two centuries back.</p>
<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/9739599862?profile=original" rel="noopener" target="_blank"><img class="align-center" src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/9739599862?profile=RESIZE_710x"></img></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: 8pt;"><em>The London Adviser and Guide, John Trusler, 1786</em></span></p>
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<p>....and lest you should still not be able to tell your mouse buttock from your elbow.....…</p>
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<p>A word of warning from over two centuries back.</p>
<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/9739599862?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/9739599862?profile=RESIZE_710x" class="align-center"/></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: 8pt;"><em>The London Adviser and Guide, John Trusler, 1786</em></span></p>
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<p>....and lest you should still not be able to tell your mouse buttock from your elbow.....</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: 8pt;"><em>The Complete Servant: Being a Practical Guide to the Peculiar Duties and Business of All Descriptions of Servants, Samuel & Sarah Adams, 1825</em></span></p>
<p></p> Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-10-26:844301:Comment:14595112021-10-26T15:11:51.178ZKen Stevenshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/KenStevens
<p>Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!</p>
<p>Had to <a href="https://diggingi95.com/uncategorized/beef-mouse-buttock/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">look up how that was retrieved</a> from said beasties and then cooked.</p>
<p>Ooooh, Hugh, you are cheeky ;-) ..........................................</p>
<blockquote><p>The mouse buttock or second round of beef was smaller than the buttock or round and located lower down the rear end of the cow. It was most often boiled, stewed, or salted,…</p>
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<p>Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!</p>
<p>Had to <a href="https://diggingi95.com/uncategorized/beef-mouse-buttock/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">look up how that was retrieved</a> from said beasties and then cooked.</p>
<p>Ooooh, Hugh, you are cheeky ;-) ..........................................</p>
<blockquote><p>The mouse buttock or second round of beef was smaller than the buttock or round and located lower down the rear end of the cow. It was most often boiled, stewed, or salted, but also braised and used in soups. When eaten fresh, the mouse buttock was best cut into steaks, beaten well and then either broiled, fried, or stewed. It was recommended that fat should be added to the leaner part of the second round when cooking it.</p>
<p><strong>Recipe circa 1831</strong></p>
<p>Take 11 pounds of the mouse buttock, or clod of beef, cut it into pieces of 3 or 4 ounces each; put 2 or 3 large onions, and 2 ounces of beef dripping into a large deep stew pan; as soon as it is quite hot, flour the meat, and put it into the stew pan; fill it sufficiently to cover the contents with water, and stir it continually with a wooden spoon; when it has been a quarter of an hour, dredge it with flour, and keep doing so till it has been stirred as much as will thicken it; then cover it with boiling water. Skim it when it boils, and put in 1 drachm of black ground pepper, 2 of allspice, and 4 bay leaves; set the pan by the side of the fire to stew slowly about four hours. This is at once a savoury and economical dish.</p>
</blockquote> A few newspaper snippets adde…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-10-26:844301:Comment:14596112021-10-26T14:56:54.665ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>A few newspaper snippets added including hints of the inmates’ diet - mouse buttocks!</p>
<p>A few newspaper snippets added including hints of the inmates’ diet - mouse buttocks!</p> Brilliant reseach. This is so…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-10-26:844301:Comment:14593862021-10-26T11:26:12.680ZBarrie Birchhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/BarrieBirch
<p>Brilliant reseach. This is so informative. Thank you</p>
<p>Brilliant reseach. This is so informative. Thank you</p> Ah, never spotted that! Very…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-10-26:844301:Comment:14595872021-10-26T10:35:20.821ZKen Stevenshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/KenStevens
<p>Ah, never spotted that! Very enlightening.</p>
<p>Ah, never spotted that! Very enlightening.</p> You were no doubt a veritable…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-10-26:844301:Comment:14594992021-10-26T09:47:41.377ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>You were no doubt a veritable North Star for the burghers of 1815. How could they not have noted your coming on the map?!</p>
<p>PS: In case you didn't spot the link in the main text I added a <a href="https://harringayonline.com/photo/hornsey-national-school-for-boy-s-priory-road" target="_blank" rel="noopener">piece on the National School yesterday</a>. (Of course the story ends up in Harringay!)</p>
<p>You were no doubt a veritable North Star for the burghers of 1815. How could they not have noted your coming on the map?!</p>
<p>PS: In case you didn't spot the link in the main text I added a <a href="https://harringayonline.com/photo/hornsey-national-school-for-boy-s-priory-road" target="_blank" rel="noopener">piece on the National School yesterday</a>. (Of course the story ends up in Harringay!)</p> I was aware of the National S…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-10-26:844301:Comment:14594962021-10-26T09:44:11.569ZKen Stevenshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/KenStevens
<p>I was aware of the National School along Priory Road but hadn't realised there had been a workhouse. Fascinating.</p>
<p>BTW: On your map, to the right of the workhouse was where my Linzee Road appeared next century. I note that number 66 was already there. We were across the road in 63 :-) </p>
<p>I was aware of the National School along Priory Road but hadn't realised there had been a workhouse. Fascinating.</p>
<p>BTW: On your map, to the right of the workhouse was where my Linzee Road appeared next century. I note that number 66 was already there. We were across the road in 63 :-) </p>