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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Your Harringay ward libdem team have been talking to hundreds of residents these past few months and one thing that keeps being raised is the disappointment of the Green Lanes Traffic survey that the council conducted last year. The solutions residents are looking for to reduce the traffic across the Harringay Ladder just aren't there and the solutions that are presented just aren't going to solve things. To make things worse, the study, which cost over £100,000, now seems to have been kicked into the long grass by the council.

We don't think this is good enough. Harringay residents have put up with unsustainable levels of traffic for years and we all want a solution that cuts the number of HGVs on our roads and makes our residential roads less desirable to through traffic but without impacting unfairly on other areas.

We want to get the conversation going again with our own traffic survey to see what residents want and invite ideas so we can continue to work with residents to build a workable solution.

We have been out delivering our survey to residents but we are putting it here on Harringay Online so that those of you we haven't reached yet will have a chance to fill it in and send it back to us.

Please do take the time to print it off and fill it in – together we can find the solutions to solve the traffic issue that blights so many of our residential roads.

Karen Alexander, Matt Cuthbert & David Schmitz
Liberal Democrat Candidates for Harringay Ward

Link here to our survey
Harringay%20Libdems%20-%20Harringay%20Ward%20Survey%20on%20Traffic.pdf

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Realistically, if you want responses you'd be far better with an online survey rather than expecting people to print off, fill in and post a response.

Thank you Andrew - that's a really good suggestion - I will get on to sorting that out too.

I do not have access to a printer atm, is there an online version of your form - or an email address I could use instead?
Ah I see Andrew asked the same thing and I can't seem to edit my post, so sorry for the repeat.

Karen I'm sorry but yet another consultation or another survey just looks like giving the appearance of action with no likelihood of any genuine outcome - just like the Traffic Survey. When you get the answers, what are you going to do with them ?

Surely you have lots of answers in the responses to the Traffic Survey - why don't you revisit them and get some value out of the £100,000 ?

It's difficult to take this survey seriously when you say " We believe a consultation is not a box-ticking exercise" when it's full of boxes to be ticked

Your questions invite knee-jerk yes/no answers. For instance on removing pavement parking in favour of alternate side parking the Transport Study says that only 54 spaces would be lost and these would " easily be made up for with spare spaces on the Ladder Roads. "  ( If I can pre-empt OAE, Wightman Road is a Ladder Road   ). I would like to have been able to point out that yesterday evening I had to try four different roads before I could find a space. I know you say that I can reply more fully to your email address but will the unthinking yes/no answers be given as much weight as my reasoned response ?

Yes, John, the loss of parking spaces has as yet not been adequately addressed. The Council made some very rough estimations of parking capacities by dividing the length of residents parking available by the average length of a car. 

Using this method they calculated 30-40% evening time spare capacity on my road. After I learned of the result I checked over the next few nights and at most there was one spare parking space and a few disabled ones. 

I think it's inevitable that losing parking spaces on Wightman will mean a significant worsening of parking for all residents on the Ladder. 

... it's all very well claiming that you have consulted with residents using anecdotal evidence but you haven't spoken to me or my partner and other than completing the "Living Whiteman" survey we haven't been asked our opinion. Any responses from residents are only seen by you and therefore lack transparency and accountability. Your suggestions seem weighted toward car owners but me and my partner gave up our car 2 years ago and would like to see much more being done to encourage use of public transport in the borough.

You say that the Council have kicked the the issue into the "long grass" but perhaps that has something to do with the uncertainties surrounding the change of Labour leadership, the HS2 station development and the cancelling of the HDV?

I recall the Lib-Dem involvement last time you were a councillor which resulted in poorly thought out speed hump schemes which have blighted our lives with constant noise and speeding vehicles causing structural damage to our property.

The other things you were responsible for are the traffic calming measures and one way system on the "ladder" roads which have failed so disastrously.

I don't posess a printer as they are very bad for the environment and feel excluded from participating. The results of any printed "tick box" forms would be available only to you and would, therefore be no more than more anecdotal "evidence".

if you're really serious about consulting then it should be more transparent and accountable as I have lost faith in empty promises...

Roger, thank you for you response. I was certainly involved with the adoption of the 20mph and traffic calming on Wightman Road when I was a councillor last time. Wightman Road was essentially a race track at times with some cars doing in excess of 40-50 mph. Wightman Road still isnt perfect but the traffic is slower.

For the record the one way roads were implemented on the ladder years before I was a councillor.

David Schmitz, Matt Cuthbert and I are talking to as many residents as we can and taking on board all the issues brought up. We can’t always reach every resident so putting the survey on here is our way of trying to reach more residents.  We will be putting a link to it on line shortly as suggested.

We care deeply about Harringay and we are doing our best to make it better for residents. 

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