Harringay Ladder traffic 'project' timelines - Harringay online2024-03-29T11:18:13Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/harringay-ladder-traffic-project-timelines?commentId=844301%3AComment%3A1484347&feed=yes&xn_auth=nowow. I have read everything y…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-04-25:844301:Comment:14882942022-04-25T18:37:42.552ZClaudia Matthewshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/ClaudiaMatthews
<p>wow. I have read everything you said and i agree with you entirely! Close one road and apparently do not worry about anyone else... the people in LTN's are equallu dissatisfied because they have added extra miles and time on their commutes. </p>
<p>The council's that once boosted of these LTN's are now taking them down after spending tax payers money, inconviniencing residents and unnecessarily charging road users in fines! I really hope the people of haringey take head from these failed…</p>
<p>wow. I have read everything you said and i agree with you entirely! Close one road and apparently do not worry about anyone else... the people in LTN's are equallu dissatisfied because they have added extra miles and time on their commutes. </p>
<p>The council's that once boosted of these LTN's are now taking them down after spending tax payers money, inconviniencing residents and unnecessarily charging road users in fines! I really hope the people of haringey take head from these failed projects and seek rather for other more practical alternatives. </p>
<p></p> In 2001 we had the battle of…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-03-31:844301:Comment:14847472022-03-31T14:45:14.364ZJohn McMullanhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/bogan72
<p>In 2001 we had the battle of Green Lanes, the one-way modifications made to the ladder and Hermitage Rd quietly closed to through traffic. The Gardens was 2005/6. That's not what I call a consultation, certainly not compared to how the people of Crouch End expect them to be run these days.</p>
<p>In 2001 we had the battle of Green Lanes, the one-way modifications made to the ladder and Hermitage Rd quietly closed to through traffic. The Gardens was 2005/6. That's not what I call a consultation, certainly not compared to how the people of Crouch End expect them to be run these days.</p> Hi Peter, for news and update…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-03-31:844301:Comment:14845372022-03-31T14:32:32.356ZPacific_Flowerhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/PacificFlower
<p>Hi Peter, for news and updates you can sign up for the Harringay Ladder Healthy Streets here: <a href="https://list-manage.us10.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=1967c801359614733ea1a58ac&id=a059a83ad1" target="_blank">https://list-manage.us10.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=1967c801359614733ea1a58ac&id=a059a83ad1</a></p>
<p>The last consultation meeting was on 17th March and open to all who registered. The link was publicised on my road's WhatsApp Group.</p>
<p>Hi Peter, for news and updates you can sign up for the Harringay Ladder Healthy Streets here: <a href="https://list-manage.us10.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=1967c801359614733ea1a58ac&id=a059a83ad1" target="_blank">https://list-manage.us10.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=1967c801359614733ea1a58ac&id=a059a83ad1</a></p>
<p>The last consultation meeting was on 17th March and open to all who registered. The link was publicised on my road's WhatsApp Group.</p> Re:Hermitage New River Reside…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-03-31:844301:Comment:14846982022-03-31T14:12:19.725ZPeterPiperhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/PeterPiper
<p>Re:Hermitage New River Residents.</p>
<p>I'm not doubting there may have been a consultation, but for who? It was certainly kept quiet and not available for Ladder residents, (which may have resulted in a different outcome if it had been).</p>
<p>Re:Hermitage New River Residents.</p>
<p>I'm not doubting there may have been a consultation, but for who? It was certainly kept quiet and not available for Ladder residents, (which may have resulted in a different outcome if it had been).</p> In reply to John McMullan's c…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-03-31:844301:Comment:14845892022-03-31T12:39:43.123ZHermitage New River Residentshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/HermitageNewRiverResidents
<p>In reply to John McMullan's comment, the Hermitage and Gardens closures were subject to statutory consultation and formal traffic orders in 2000 and 2001 respectively.</p>
<p>In reply to John McMullan's comment, the Hermitage and Gardens closures were subject to statutory consultation and formal traffic orders in 2000 and 2001 respectively.</p> Andrew - You echo my points.…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-03-31:844301:Comment:14846922022-03-31T09:51:52.284ZDonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/DonKeller
<p>Andrew - You echo my points. John McM says that the Gardens closure was a political stitch-up which resulted in displaced traffic using the Ladder instead, you point out that Wightman closure sent traffic over a hugely wider area because GL couldn’t take it, while other Haringey residents complain because Enfield’s Bowes LTN has just shunted vehicles onto their streets instead. All of this argues for a London-wide plan, not just local tinkering that gets rid of a problem in one place and…</p>
<p>Andrew - You echo my points. John McM says that the Gardens closure was a political stitch-up which resulted in displaced traffic using the Ladder instead, you point out that Wightman closure sent traffic over a hugely wider area because GL couldn’t take it, while other Haringey residents complain because Enfield’s Bowes LTN has just shunted vehicles onto their streets instead. All of this argues for a London-wide plan, not just local tinkering that gets rid of a problem in one place and creates new chaos elsewhere</p>
<p>John McM complains about commuter traffic from outside London, but until there’s a vast amount of afffordable housing (and green spaces) in central London enabling people to live close to work, or everyone works from home (and how does that work for service industries and retail?), then we’re stuck with non-Harringay residents driving through. Which leads us back to public transport as the only viable way of getting people out of their cars. Trams in GL once again?</p> The Gardens and Hermitage Rd…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-03-31:844301:Comment:14845852022-03-31T09:22:44.743ZJohn McMullanhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/bogan72
<p>The Gardens and Hermitage Rd were political stitch-ups, there was no consultation.</p>
<p>I'm keen for us to get ANPR cameras looking at the boundaries of the borough and charging for the drivers of Mercia, Anglia and Wessex commuting through us (love calling them that now, much better than "The Home Counties").</p>
<p>The Gardens and Hermitage Rd were political stitch-ups, there was no consultation.</p>
<p>I'm keen for us to get ANPR cameras looking at the boundaries of the borough and charging for the drivers of Mercia, Anglia and Wessex commuting through us (love calling them that now, much better than "The Home Counties").</p> Your right John,
I’d rather…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-03-30:844301:Comment:14845592022-03-30T18:04:02.163Zandy hhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/andrewhunt
<p>Your right John, </p>
<p>I’d rather none of them had been implimented, I think you’ll get what you want though. Personally Id rather deal with the problem rather than the symptoms it’s better in the long run.</p>
<p>Your right John, </p>
<p>I’d rather none of them had been implimented, I think you’ll get what you want though. Personally Id rather deal with the problem rather than the symptoms it’s better in the long run.</p> We're at the end of beggar-th…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-03-30:844301:Comment:14844192022-03-30T17:49:48.888ZJohn McMullanhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/bogan72
<p>We're at the end of beggar-thy-neighbour. The Ladder is the last place for miles around to get any kind of attention for preventing THROUGH traffic.</p>
<p>We're at the end of beggar-thy-neighbour. The Ladder is the last place for miles around to get any kind of attention for preventing THROUGH traffic.</p> I thought we were just talkin…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-03-30:844301:Comment:14846652022-03-30T17:00:27.344ZAndrewAW1https://harringayonline.com/profile/Andrew499
<p>I thought we were just talking about the boundary roads of the scheme, Green Lanes and Wightman.</p>
<p>Yes, some went elsewhere. There was about an additional 30k spread over Crouch End, Woodlands Park Road and Black Boy Lane.</p>
<p>Maybe another 50k went down the A10 or A1 but that's getting quite far from the initial route.</p>
<p>It doesn't have to be a beggar-thy-neighbour political race. Some long-term planning could see controls implemented across wide areas but no-one wants to grasp…</p>
<p>I thought we were just talking about the boundary roads of the scheme, Green Lanes and Wightman.</p>
<p>Yes, some went elsewhere. There was about an additional 30k spread over Crouch End, Woodlands Park Road and Black Boy Lane.</p>
<p>Maybe another 50k went down the A10 or A1 but that's getting quite far from the initial route.</p>
<p>It doesn't have to be a beggar-thy-neighbour political race. Some long-term planning could see controls implemented across wide areas but no-one wants to grasp that nettle.</p>