Harringay Ladder left out of Haringey’s Streetspace Plans - Harringay online2024-03-29T02:18:24Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/harringay-ladder-left-out-of-haringey-s-streetspace-plans?feed=yes&xn_auth=noPersonally, I am very pleased…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-06-26:844301:Comment:12652512020-06-26T12:36:16.654ZKeir Hopleyhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/KeirHopley
<p>Personally, I am very pleased if no further changes are going to be made. I live on the Ladder and walk and drive. All measures designed to help the neighbourhood by so called "traffic calming" or traffic reduction just make it take longer to drive anywhere and provide greater hazards, such as the jutting pavements on Wightman Road.</p>
<p>Personally, I am very pleased if no further changes are going to be made. I live on the Ladder and walk and drive. All measures designed to help the neighbourhood by so called "traffic calming" or traffic reduction just make it take longer to drive anywhere and provide greater hazards, such as the jutting pavements on Wightman Road.</p> Sorry, to be clear, the major…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-06-26:844301:Comment:12651542020-06-26T10:34:46.214ZAndrewAW1https://harringayonline.com/profile/Andrew499
<p>Sorry, to be clear, the majority of households don't have a car.</p>
<p>Sorry, to be clear, the majority of households don't have a car.</p> tag:harringayonline.com,2020-06-26:844301:Comment:12651492020-06-26T09:58:22.948ZMichael Andersonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/17bathgate
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<p>Brigitte, firstly whilst I understand your frustration, if you want to continue to post on HoL, you need to temper your style.</p>
<p>Secondly, I understand how you might feel if you see people calling for car use reduction for everyone else but themselves. But many people involved in these campaigns are calling for a radical 'modal shift' which would see a reduction of motorised traffic on all streets, both residential and mixed-use.</p>
<p>In the meantime, the 2001 Census showed that 46%…</p>
<p>Brigitte, firstly whilst I understand your frustration, if you want to continue to post on HoL, you need to temper your style.</p>
<p>Secondly, I understand how you might feel if you see people calling for car use reduction for everyone else but themselves. But many people involved in these campaigns are calling for a radical 'modal shift' which would see a reduction of motorised traffic on all streets, both residential and mixed-use.</p>
<p>In the meantime, the 2001 Census showed that 46% of households in Haringey do not have access to a car, compared with 37% of households in London. I think I heard that the non-ownership figure has since increased to 66% but I can't put my hand to the date quickly.</p> I dunno - it's done by househ…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-06-26:844301:Comment:12650072020-06-26T09:17:31.813ZHisky0https://harringayonline.com/profile/Hisky0
<p>I dunno - it's done by households - of which the majority in Haringey as a whole don't.</p>
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<p>Take my estate for example, there's only 6/15 families with cars and one family with four ( taking up the free communal parking ) </p>
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<p>I think the council should take into account that obesity and air quality are more important that the ability of people to drive to the shopping centre - it would revitalise the small shops and people would use cars to get to work or on weekends…</p>
<p>I dunno - it's done by households - of which the majority in Haringey as a whole don't.</p>
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<p>Take my estate for example, there's only 6/15 families with cars and one family with four ( taking up the free communal parking ) </p>
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<p>I think the council should take into account that obesity and air quality are more important that the ability of people to drive to the shopping centre - it would revitalise the small shops and people would use cars to get to work or on weekends for leisure.</p> I apologise Hugh. tag:harringayonline.com,2020-06-26:844301:Comment:12650062020-06-26T09:11:34.625ZPenguinhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/richard249
<p>I apologise Hugh. </p>
<p>I apologise Hugh. </p> “You should just shut up” - b…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-06-26:844301:Comment:12650822020-06-26T09:08:45.912ZMichael Andersonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/17bathgate
<p>“You should just shut up” - blimey!</p>
<p>“You should just shut up” - blimey!</p> Maybe not, but you were makin…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-06-26:844301:Comment:12650812020-06-26T09:08:37.165ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>Maybe not, but you were making challenging (and incorrect) assumptions about my point of view, despite what I've written in this thread. I'm guessing that you still haven't read my original response to this post which challenged the assumptions on which it was based. </p>
<p>Maybe not, but you were making challenging (and incorrect) assumptions about my point of view, despite what I've written in this thread. I'm guessing that you still haven't read my original response to this post which challenged the assumptions on which it was based. </p> Woah woah! I wasn't being at…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-06-26:844301:Comment:12648072020-06-26T08:57:19.485ZPenguinhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/richard249
<p>Woah woah! I wasn't being at all aggressive in my last message Hugh. </p>
<p>The OP is complaining that St Anns is getting action and they aren't. That sounds like playing one side off against the other to me.</p>
<p>Woah woah! I wasn't being at all aggressive in my last message Hugh. </p>
<p>The OP is complaining that St Anns is getting action and they aren't. That sounds like playing one side off against the other to me.</p> Back off, Penguin. My first r…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-06-26:844301:Comment:12647342020-06-26T08:47:43.349ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>Back off, Penguin. My first response to this thread was to challenge the premise of the original post. Read it. My last response explicitly recognised that more was needed in St Ann’s. This isn’t the time for playing one side off against the other. </p>
<p>Back off, Penguin. My first response to this thread was to challenge the premise of the original post. Read it. My last response explicitly recognised that more was needed in St Ann’s. This isn’t the time for playing one side off against the other. </p>