Harringay in Grey and Green, The Alexanders of Harringay House - Harringay online2024-03-28T20:26:42Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/harringay-in-grey-and-green-the-alexanders-of-harringay-house?groupUrl=historyofharringay&commentId=844301%3AComment%3A1484461&groupId=844301%3AGroup%3A10&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI was interested to see the p…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-10-07:844301:Comment:15105842022-10-07T17:58:00.874ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>I was interested to see the portrait in Fig. 2 crop up in an episode of the ITV programme ‘<em>DNA Journey</em>’ featuring <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alison_Hammond" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Alison Hammond</a> the other day.</p>
<p>The brother-in-law of Alison’s x3 great-grandfather was <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Celeste_Lecesne" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Louis Lescene</a> who is the one black face in the portrait, one row behind and five to the right…</p>
<p>I was interested to see the portrait in Fig. 2 crop up in an episode of the ITV programme ‘<em>DNA Journey</em>’ featuring <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alison_Hammond" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Alison Hammond</a> the other day.</p>
<p>The brother-in-law of Alison’s x3 great-grandfather was <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Celeste_Lecesne" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Louis Lescene</a> who is the one black face in the portrait, one row behind and five to the right of George William Alexander. The story of Lescene and Alison’s blood-relative. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/past/article/255/1/189/6433114" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Jean Escoffery</a>, is fascinating and will be of particular interest to those interested in black history.</p>
<p>You can watch the episode<a href="https://www.itv.com/hub/dna-journey/2a5252a0011" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> on ITV</a>.</p> Totally engrossing Allen and…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-04-06:844301:Comment:14858512022-04-06T17:09:54.644ZJohn Shulverhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/John_Shulver
<p>Totally engrossing Allen and Hugh. Such pity to learn of demise of such grand houses and parklands.</p>
<p>Totally engrossing Allen and Hugh. Such pity to learn of demise of such grand houses and parklands.</p> Oh you are a wag Kenneth ! G…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-04-06:844301:Comment:14856042022-04-06T16:44:48.126ZJohn Shulverhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/John_Shulver
<p>Oh you are a wag Kenneth ! Good stuff. I too immediately linked with Grey/Green coaches. Plebs indeed.</p>
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<p>Oh you are a wag Kenneth ! Good stuff. I too immediately linked with Grey/Green coaches. Plebs indeed.</p>
<p></p> Thanks, Dick and Richard. I c…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-04-01:844301:Comment:14849452022-04-01T07:39:33.855ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>Thanks, Dick and Richard. I couldn’t quite believe it as the story revealed itself. I’d known about Whistler, but then we added a painting of the father at an anti-slavery convention, Beecher Stowe, Elizabeth Fry, Frederick Douglass and Whistler’s mother herself.</p>
<p>Thanks, Dick and Richard. I couldn’t quite believe it as the story revealed itself. I’d known about Whistler, but then we added a painting of the father at an anti-slavery convention, Beecher Stowe, Elizabeth Fry, Frederick Douglass and Whistler’s mother herself.</p> Thanks Allen. I had the photo…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-04-01:844301:Comment:14848712022-04-01T07:36:53.083ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>Thanks Allen. I had the photos of the Gothic pile but what eluded me were the exact purchase and rebuild dates. It’s good to see a purchase date. The rebuild will have to remain as a rough 1850-1865ish. I had no idea that Alexander’s father had bought up the whole block. </p>
<p>Thanks Allen. I had the photos of the Gothic pile but what eluded me were the exact purchase and rebuild dates. It’s good to see a purchase date. The rebuild will have to remain as a rough 1850-1865ish. I had no idea that Alexander’s father had bought up the whole block. </p> Great info & research!
Th…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-04-01:844301:Comment:14847262022-04-01T05:45:56.727ZAllen Cullenhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AllenCullen
<p>Great info & research!</p>
<p>The area round The Willows & Paradise Row looked lovely! And my cousins grew up near Clissold Park - still a nice place!</p>
<p>I found this page when this area popped up in another story online a while ago too (inc some more nice pics):…</p>
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<p>Great info & research!</p>
<p>The area round The Willows & Paradise Row looked lovely! And my cousins grew up near Clissold Park - still a nice place!</p>
<p>I found this page when this area popped up in another story online a while ago too (inc some more nice pics):</p>
<p><a href="https://www.locallocalhistory.co.uk/willows/final1/page1.htm?fbclid=IwAR3DAOJEK0WoyXTCh9Z6CDE3AUL4VcKF43XvIMY01rZbFfwz-ewI-knbhS0" target="_blank">https://www.locallocalhistory.co.uk/willows/final1/page1.htm?fbclid=IwAR3DAOJEK0WoyXTCh9Z6CDE3AUL4VcKF43XvIMY01rZbFfwz-ewI-knbhS0</a></p> This is really rivetting stuf…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-04-01:844301:Comment:14848502022-04-01T00:42:13.759ZDick Harrishttps://harringayonline.com/profile/DickHarris
<p>This is really rivetting stuff Hugh. It's very good of you write it all up so well and to share it with us. Thank you truly.</p>
<p>This is really rivetting stuff Hugh. It's very good of you write it all up so well and to share it with us. Thank you truly.</p> Enjoyed this Hugh. tag:harringayonline.com,2022-03-31:844301:Comment:14847772022-03-31T23:40:22.317ZRichardhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Richard
<p>Enjoyed this Hugh. </p>
<p>Enjoyed this Hugh. </p> I thought of Grey Green coach…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-03-31:844301:Comment:14847002022-03-31T17:18:13.186ZGeraldinehttps://harringayonline.com/profile/GeraldineTaylorThomas
<p>I thought of Grey Green coaches too. I remember my mum used to take me to Clacton on one. Great minds think alike!</p>
<p>I thought of Grey Green coaches too. I remember my mum used to take me to Clacton on one. Great minds think alike!</p> You know that quip about a pl…tag:harringayonline.com,2022-03-31:844301:Comment:14847482022-03-31T15:22:38.484ZKen Stevenshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/KenStevens
<p>You know that quip about a pleb being someone who thinks of the Lone Ranger when hearing the William Tell Overture?</p>
<p>Well I'm not too proud to confess that my mind instinctively turned to a once renowned local seaside coach operator when I saw the title reference to Grey and Green.</p>
<p>Mind you, I partially redeemed myself culturally upon reading the bit about George William, Alexander's father starting as a lowly clerk and working his way up to a partnership It prompted a mental…</p>
<p>You know that quip about a pleb being someone who thinks of the Lone Ranger when hearing the William Tell Overture?</p>
<p>Well I'm not too proud to confess that my mind instinctively turned to a once renowned local seaside coach operator when I saw the title reference to Grey and Green.</p>
<p>Mind you, I partially redeemed myself culturally upon reading the bit about George William, Alexander's father starting as a lowly clerk and working his way up to a partnership It prompted a mental fragment of "When I Was A Lad" in HMS Pinafore ;-)</p>
<blockquote><p>When I was a lad I served a term<br/> As office boy to an Attorney's firm.<br/> I cleaned the windows and I swept the floor,<br/> And I polished up the handle of the big front door.<br/> I polished up that handle so carefullee<br/> That now I am the Ruler of the Queen's Navee!</p>
<p><br/> As office boy I made such a mark<br/> That they gave me the post of a junior clerk.<br/> I served the writs with a smile so bland,<br/> And I copied all the letters in a big round hand.<br/> I copied all the letters in a hand so free,<br/> That now I am the Ruler of the Queen's Navee!</p>
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