Haringey Commits to Rubbish Control at Harringay Meeting - Harringay online2024-03-28T11:53:12Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/haringey-commits-to-rubbish-control-at-harringay-meeting?commentId=844301%3AComment%3A1120564&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI just tried this on my mobil…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-10-02:844301:Comment:11231582018-10-02T08:46:51.356ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>I just tried this on my mobile and can’t get past the penultimate screen. </p>
<p>I just tried this on my mobile and can’t get past the penultimate screen. </p> I’m not saying it can’t work,…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-09-28:844301:Comment:11224042018-09-28T17:59:04.906ZMichael Andersonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/17bathgate
<p>I’m not saying it can’t work, it can, but it’s not a solution for every area. </p>
<p>Walk along a street in my area (the Ladder) and residential properties are end to end. You would either have to locate the large bins right down at the end where the paid for parking spaces are, which would be a hell of a walk from the top of the street, or at intervals along the road. </p>
<p>Houses on my street have front windows only a few meters from the kerbside. So the bins could be used by anyone…</p>
<p>I’m not saying it can’t work, it can, but it’s not a solution for every area. </p>
<p>Walk along a street in my area (the Ladder) and residential properties are end to end. You would either have to locate the large bins right down at the end where the paid for parking spaces are, which would be a hell of a walk from the top of the street, or at intervals along the road. </p>
<p>Houses on my street have front windows only a few meters from the kerbside. So the bins could be used by anyone at anytime (unless all residents were given keys and/or the bins had some kind of time lock). Imagine one directly outside of where you live and having a load of bottles and so on being thrown in at 6 in the morning or 10 in the evening.</p>
<p>This seem works really well where ground floor is retail, with habitable rooms above that are not directly facing the bins, or where there are tucked away areas like the bin sheds you see in large blocks and tenements (the sort you see in Edinburgh and Glasgow). I just can’t see it working in streets of solely residential low rise properties. </p> I've seen quite small scale v…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-09-28:844301:Comment:11224802018-09-28T16:03:57.642ZAngelahttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Angela
<p>I've seen quite small scale versions outside of major cities, most recently in a very small town in France and which was quite cleverly 'hidden' by a wooden shelter.</p>
<p>Why does the system work in Edinburgh and mainland Europe then?</p>
<p>I've seen quite small scale versions outside of major cities, most recently in a very small town in France and which was quite cleverly 'hidden' by a wooden shelter.</p>
<p>Why does the system work in Edinburgh and mainland Europe then?</p> For those interested, below a…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-09-28:844301:Comment:11222352018-09-28T11:19:36.878ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>For those interested, below are my question to and answer from the owners of the App software:</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>QUESTION</strong></span></p>
<p><span>I am writing to ask if the way the reporting feedback loop happens on the Haringey implementation is the standard way, or is it simply a reflection of the way it’s been implemented. See my comment at …</span></p>
<p>For those interested, below are my question to and answer from the owners of the App software:</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>QUESTION</strong></span></p>
<p><span>I am writing to ask if the way the reporting feedback loop happens on the Haringey implementation is the standard way, or is it simply a reflection of the way it’s been implemented. See my comment at </span><a href="https://www.harringayonline.com/forum/topics/haringey-commits-to-rubbish-control-at-harringay-meeting?commentId=844301%3AComment%3A1121718" rel="noreferrer">https://www.harringayonline.com/forum/topics/haringey-commits-to-ru...</a></p>
<p>In particular, I am wondering if sport emails can be changed to give the full outcome rather than merely a link to a circuitous route to discover the outcome.</p>
<p>Hugh</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>RESPONSE</strong></span></p>
<p>Hi Hugh,</p>
<p>There are various things at play here. Love Clean Streets are the providers of the app (and always have been, initially partnered with Lewisham) and the final page you view the report on and also the page with the ability to raise reports through the My Account portal. However we don't provide the My Account portal and the ability to manage all other council related items through that medium. You sign in to My Account and that single sign on allows you access to view reports you've made or raise other environmental reports.</p>
<p>Depending on your report category and the location they are allocated to different teams to be resolved and the feedback comes back through to our Love Clean Streets back office system and the report is updated. You can see that update in the webpage via the route you have taken or on the app in your Reports Published Reports section. When it is completed it will show a green flag and a status of 'Closed' or 'Completed'.</p>
<p>Haringey do chose to provide a link to the webpage of your report in the notification email on closure and yes you do have a few pages to go through as it requires authentication so that your report is not visible to the general public unless Haringey have made it so. A link to the report and authentication to see it is more secure than the information being directly in the email.</p>
<p>We are always happy to consider improvements of course and if I understand correctly from your post/thread the issue is visibility of the closing comments from Haringey not just that it is closed?</p>
<p>KInd Regards,</p>
<p>Helen</p> If it's still there a few day…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-09-27:844301:Comment:11219652018-09-27T15:53:16.698ZAndrewAW1https://harringayonline.com/profile/Andrew499
<p>If it's still there a few days after though it will start to look a bit out of place.</p>
<p>If it's still there a few days after though it will start to look a bit out of place.</p> Is it? Could just as easily m…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-09-27:844301:Comment:11218612018-09-27T15:26:48.097ZAbihttps://harringayonline.com/profile/flump
<p>Is it? Could just as easily mean from a thief's perspective that you are in and haven't left the house yet. </p>
<p>Is it? Could just as easily mean from a thief's perspective that you are in and haven't left the house yet. </p> Oops, sorry Christopher. Jus…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-09-27:844301:Comment:11218382018-09-27T15:13:22.740ZMichael Andersonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/17bathgate
<p>Oops, sorry Christopher. Just spotted your post marking the same point</p>
<p>Oops, sorry Christopher. Just spotted your post marking the same point</p> I’ve seen that in European ci…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-09-27:844301:Comment:11219632018-09-27T15:12:34.482ZMichael Andersonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/17bathgate
<p>I’ve seen that in European cities too Angela but those I’ve seen are in areas of very high density, where accommodation is above shops and where there is vacant space at the end of a street. The arrangement in Paris for big paladin bins like this also relies on daily collection at exactly the same time so people can only put their stuff out x minutes before. They operatives also clean out the bin and wash the pavement and gutters everyday too. Not sure who would volunteer to have one…</p>
<p>I’ve seen that in European cities too Angela but those I’ve seen are in areas of very high density, where accommodation is above shops and where there is vacant space at the end of a street. The arrangement in Paris for big paladin bins like this also relies on daily collection at exactly the same time so people can only put their stuff out x minutes before. They operatives also clean out the bin and wash the pavement and gutters everyday too. Not sure who would volunteer to have one directly outside their living room window!</p> The major problem with your s…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-09-27:844301:Comment:11220712018-09-27T14:53:09.871ZChristopher Fowlerhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/ChristopherFowler
<p>The major problem with your suggestion is that no-one is going to want such a communal bin outside their home, due to the disruption and noise, which might be at all hours of the day and night. Also, communal bins on-street for recyclables will inevitably attract fly-tipping of other materials. As we can see from previous posts, fly-tipping is a serious problem in the borough.</p>
<p>The major problem with your suggestion is that no-one is going to want such a communal bin outside their home, due to the disruption and noise, which might be at all hours of the day and night. Also, communal bins on-street for recyclables will inevitably attract fly-tipping of other materials. As we can see from previous posts, fly-tipping is a serious problem in the borough.</p> I don't understand we why we…tag:harringayonline.com,2018-09-27:844301:Comment:11218352018-09-27T14:36:56.927ZAngelahttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Angela
<p>I don't understand we why we still have doorstep collections. In Edinburgh, for example, there are communal bins on residential streets; on-street recycling I think it's called. I've also seen this in various European towns and cities and it seems to work well.</p>
<p>If LBH can remove parking spaces for communal bike lockers I'm sure they could do the same for communal recycling. Obviously it would be a major project but I think it would be worth it in the long run, especially in streets…</p>
<p>I don't understand we why we still have doorstep collections. In Edinburgh, for example, there are communal bins on residential streets; on-street recycling I think it's called. I've also seen this in various European towns and cities and it seems to work well.</p>
<p>If LBH can remove parking spaces for communal bike lockers I'm sure they could do the same for communal recycling. Obviously it would be a major project but I think it would be worth it in the long run, especially in streets which have no front garden or anywhere to store bins.</p>
<p>Btw, I am not advocating a return to the huge bottle bank by the tube station type set up!</p>