Freeview - can anyone help? Idiot guide needed - Harringay online2024-03-28T21:20:45Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/freeview-can-anyone-help-idiot-guide-needed?feed=yes&xn_auth=noBut on Freeview you are watch…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-01-17:844301:Comment:12135842020-01-17T10:51:00.834ZJohn Dhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JohnD
<p>But on Freeview you are watching it <span style="text-decoration: underline;">being shown on television</span>. You are not downloading or streaming <span style="text-decoration: underline;">after broadcast</span>.</p>
<p>But on Freeview you are watching it <span style="text-decoration: underline;">being shown on television</span>. You are not downloading or streaming <span style="text-decoration: underline;">after broadcast</span>.</p> What's that got to do with wa…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-01-17:844301:Comment:12134302020-01-17T10:43:50.369Z26mhcx4vtb0rbhttps://harringayonline.com/xn/detail/u_26mhcx4vtb0rb
<p>What's that got to do with watching live TV via Freeview? It's clearly referring to 'catch-up' services.</p>
<p>This is getting silly.</p>
<p>What's that got to do with watching live TV via Freeview? It's clearly referring to 'catch-up' services.</p>
<p>This is getting silly.</p> https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-01-17:844301:Comment:12135172020-01-17T10:35:32.080Z26mhcx4vtb0rbhttps://harringayonline.com/xn/detail/u_26mhcx4vtb0rb
<p><a href="https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one">https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one</a></p>
<ul class="bull">
<li><strong>watch or record programmes as they’re being shown on TV, on any channel</strong></li>
<li><strong>watch or stream programmes live on an online TV service</strong><span> </span>(such as ITV Hub, All 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now TV, Sky Go, etc.)</li>
<li><strong>download or watch any BBC programmes on…</strong></li>
</ul>
<p><a href="https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one">https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one</a></p>
<ul class="bull">
<li><strong>watch or record programmes as they’re being shown on TV, on any channel</strong></li>
<li><strong>watch or stream programmes live on an online TV service</strong><span> </span>(such as ITV Hub, All 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now TV, Sky Go, etc.)</li>
<li><strong>download or watch any BBC programmes on iPlayer</strong>.</li>
</ul>
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<p>Not sure how you're managing to misinterpret this, particularly the first line.</p> Ian's comment is true. You wa…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-01-17:844301:Comment:12134232020-01-17T10:25:18.934ZJohn Dhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JohnD
<p>Ian's comment is true. You watch anything off-air (via an aerial ) you have to pay a licence.</p>
<p>Your initial post asked for advice but you continue to reject it.</p>
<p>Ian's comment is true. You watch anything off-air (via an aerial ) you have to pay a licence.</p>
<p>Your initial post asked for advice but you continue to reject it.</p> "I will not when the sky box…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-01-17:844301:Comment:12135162020-01-17T10:22:52.827Z26mhcx4vtb0rbhttps://harringayonline.com/xn/detail/u_26mhcx4vtb0rb
<p>"I will not when the sky box is sent back to Sky when my "notice" expires on 14th Feb.</p>
<p>I have it now but I do not watch live TV anyway.</p>
<p>If I get the internal aerial it will be to use freeview not live BBC or BBC player </p>
<p>What exactly is your point?"</p>
<p></p>
<p>Can't reply in-line cos of thread limits. If you get the aerial to watch *any* Freeview channels you need a licence.</p>
<p>You keep saying you don't watch live TV, but that's exactly what Freeview is.</p>
<p>"I will not when the sky box is sent back to Sky when my "notice" expires on 14th Feb.</p>
<p>I have it now but I do not watch live TV anyway.</p>
<p>If I get the internal aerial it will be to use freeview not live BBC or BBC player </p>
<p>What exactly is your point?"</p>
<p></p>
<p>Can't reply in-line cos of thread limits. If you get the aerial to watch *any* Freeview channels you need a licence.</p>
<p>You keep saying you don't watch live TV, but that's exactly what Freeview is.</p> You've been claiming that you…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-01-17:844301:Comment:12134202020-01-17T09:45:29.427Z26mhcx4vtb0rbhttps://harringayonline.com/xn/detail/u_26mhcx4vtb0rb
<p>You've been claiming that you don't have the equipment to watch live TV.</p>
<p>You've been claiming that you don't have the equipment to watch live TV.</p> Hugh. I didn't say that I…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-01-17:844301:Comment:12134172020-01-17T09:33:18.406ZJohn Dhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JohnD
<p>Hugh. <em> </em> I didn't say that I was careful to say " live " TV and " as they are being shown "…</p>
<p>Hugh. <em> </em> I didn't say that I was careful to say " live " TV and " as they are being shown "</p>
<p style="color: #4f5855; font-family: &quot; lucida grande&quot;,&quot;lucida sans unicode&quot;,sans-serif; font-size: 1em; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: inherit; min-height: 1em; orphans: 2; xg-p: static; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.75em 0px;">You must have a TV Licence if you:</p>
<ul style="color: #4f5855; font-family: &quot; lucida grande&quot;,&quot;lucida sans unicode&quot;,sans-serif; font-size: 1em; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: inherit; orphans: 2; xg-p: static; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">
<li style="font-size: 1em; line-height: inherit; list-style-image: none; list-style-xg-p: outside; list-style-type: square; xg-p: static; padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0.4em 1.5em;">watch or record programmes on a TV, computer or other device <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>as they’re broadcast</strong></span></li>
</ul>
<p>I honestly cannot see how the licence fee can continued. As Anka says - how do they know / prove that you have watched live TV ?</p>
<p>The system relies on the honesty of the viewer and we know what that means :)</p>
<p></p> John, the principal error in…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-01-17:844301:Comment:12133392020-01-17T09:21:32.105ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>John, the principal error in your previous post is to state that a licence is needed to watch streamed YV like Netflix or any catchup service bar iPlayer. As Anka's link says, you don't. That's matches my understanding.</p>
<p>The <a href="https://www.gov.uk/tv-licence" rel="noopener" target="_blank">gov.uk page on this</a> has simply:</p>
<blockquote><p>You must have a TV Licence if you:</p>
<ul>
<li>watch or record programmes on a TV, computer or other device as they’re…</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<p>John, the principal error in your previous post is to state that a licence is needed to watch streamed YV like Netflix or any catchup service bar iPlayer. As Anka's link says, you don't. That's matches my understanding.</p>
<p>The <a href="https://www.gov.uk/tv-licence" target="_blank" rel="noopener">gov.uk page on this</a> has simply:</p>
<blockquote><p>You must have a TV Licence if you:</p>
<ul>
<li>watch or record programmes on a TV, computer or other device as they’re broadcast</li>
<li>download or watch BBC programmes on iPlayer – live, catch up or on demand.</li>
</ul>
</blockquote> The link you posted above say…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-01-17:844301:Comment:12133312020-01-17T08:31:11.028ZJohn Dhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JohnD
<p>The link you posted above says - " If you watch or record shows as they're being shown on telly in the UK ('live TV'), you need to be covered by a TV licence. You also need one if you use BBC iPlayer ".</p>
<p>The whole situation is a nonsense of course.</p>
<p>The link you posted above says - " If you watch or record shows as they're being shown on telly in the UK ('live TV'), you need to be covered by a TV licence. You also need one if you use BBC iPlayer ".</p>
<p>The whole situation is a nonsense of course.</p> Just be careful -
The law sa…tag:harringayonline.com,2020-01-17:844301:Comment:12134852020-01-17T08:11:43.323ZJohn Dhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JohnD
<p>Just be careful - </p>
<p>The law says you need to be covered by a TV Licence to:</p>
<ul>
<li>watch or record programmes as they’re being shown on TV, on any channel</li>
<li>watch or stream programmes live on an online TV service (such as ITV Hub, All 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now TV, Sky Go, etc.)</li>
<li>download or watch any BBC programmes on iPlayer.</li>
</ul>
<p>This applies to any device you use, including a TV, desktop computer, laptop, mobile phone, tablet, games console,…</p>
<p>Just be careful - </p>
<p>The law says you need to be covered by a TV Licence to:</p>
<ul>
<li>watch or record programmes as they’re being shown on TV, on any channel</li>
<li>watch or stream programmes live on an online TV service (such as ITV Hub, All 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now TV, Sky Go, etc.)</li>
<li>download or watch any BBC programmes on iPlayer.</li>
</ul>
<p>This applies to any device you use, including a TV, desktop computer, laptop, mobile phone, tablet, games console, digital box or DVD/VHS recorder.</p>
<p>So even if you only watch live programmes via the internet you need a licence.</p>