Dealing with fare dodgers - Harringay online2024-03-29T01:31:07Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/dealing-with-fare-dodgers?commentId=844301%3AComment%3A327069&feed=yes&xn_auth=no'Big Man' is charged. The man…tag:harringayonline.com,2011-12-21:844301:Comment:3282452011-12-21T20:46:57.490Zmatthttps://harringayonline.com/profile/mburge
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-16288101" target="_blank">'Big Man' is charged</a>. The man who dealt with a fare dodger by throwing him off a train is charged with assault.</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-16288101" target="_blank">'Big Man' is charged</a>. The man who dealt with a fare dodger by throwing him off a train is charged with assault.</p> Oh, I can't leave this subje…tag:harringayonline.com,2011-12-15:844301:Comment:3272262011-12-15T23:34:47.801ZStephenBlnhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/IsarSteve
<p>Oh, I can't leave this subject alone..</p>
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<p>I also remember singing 'The Happy Wanderer' at Woodlands Park Infants (now Chestnuts) School - The song about Wanderburschen <a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderjahre" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderjahre</a></p>
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<p>'Mein Vater war ein Wandersmann' 'und mir steckt's…</p>
<p>Oh, I can't leave this subject alone..</p>
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<p>I also remember singing 'The Happy Wanderer' at Woodlands Park Infants (now Chestnuts) School - The song about Wanderburschen <a rel="nofollow" href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderjahre" target="_blank">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderjahre</a></p>
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<p>'Mein Vater war ein Wandersmann' 'und mir steckt's auch im Blut' :o)</p>
<p>Perhaps that's what got me into German?</p> You'll notice in the photos h…tag:harringayonline.com,2011-12-15:844301:Comment:3272782011-12-15T22:38:07.358ZStephenBlnhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/IsarSteve
<p>You'll notice in the photos…</p>
<p>You'll notice in the photos <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=wandergeselle&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=eIK&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=VWzqTrWfCojFswasybG0Bw&ved=0CDwQsAQ&biw=1914&bih=946" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/search?q=wandergeselle&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=eIK&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=VWzqTrWfCojFswasybG0Bw&ved=0CDwQsAQ&biw=1914&bih=946</a> how the Gesellen are welcomed.. They are respected and it's considered good luck to shake hands with them - just like with chimney sweeps (Kaminkehrer) who are also Gesellen and also still wear similar outfits..</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.google.com/search?q=kaminkehrer&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=pHbqTpXqK83Ssgar_MCcBw&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&sqi=2&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1914&bih=946" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/search?q=kaminkehrer&hl=en&client=fi...</a></p> err, yes they could Osbawn..…tag:harringayonline.com,2011-12-15:844301:Comment:3273632011-12-15T22:14:24.065ZStephenBlnhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/IsarSteve
<p>err, yes they could Osbawn.. but would have to have a grasp of German (to pass the examinations) .. Sie müssen eigentlich Deutsch können.. The law is being changed to enable 'foreign' qualifications to be accepted.</p>
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<p>At the height of the 2008 crash, the German government paid companies to keep people in place rather than sack them, by paying half their wages instead of wasting the money on unemployment benefit.. the country, the workers and the companies all benefited and…</p>
<p>err, yes they could Osbawn.. but would have to have a grasp of German (to pass the examinations) .. Sie müssen eigentlich Deutsch können.. The law is being changed to enable 'foreign' qualifications to be accepted.</p>
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<p>At the height of the 2008 crash, the German government paid companies to keep people in place rather than sack them, by paying half their wages instead of wasting the money on unemployment benefit.. the country, the workers and the companies all benefited and Germany soared out that crisis...</p>
<p>Yes the Wandergeselle still are alive and well.. tend to be Zimmermänner (or Carpenters)..</p>
<p>I got a shot of this 'Geselle' from Kiel in his traditional outfit and wooden walking stick he crafted himself, passing through Berlin in 2009:</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/isarsteve/3911272808/" title="U-Bhf Friedrichstraße by IsarSteve, on Flickr"><img class="align-center" src="http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2665/3911272808_6b90a38a9b.jpg" alt="U-Bhf Friedrichstraße" height="500" width="375"/></a>'Gesellen' have to work their way around the country, learning their trade and need to get their jobs certified by the employers in order to qualify as 'Meister' or Experienced Carpenters. Only 'Meister' can teach apprentices.. and so the trades are passed on from generation to generation.</p>
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<p>In our small media company we have 8 permanent staff, around 25-30 freelances (cameramen technicians etc.,) and two apprentices, 1 male, 1 female, both university students, but learning a trade with us.. The German government gives tax breaks to companies that take on apprentices = Azubis (or Auszubildende) and levies taxes on those that don't.</p>
<p>Just this week I was at a German Chamber of Commerce celebration for those apprentices that came first in their particular trade - from Sewing to Animal Rescue, Electricians to IT staff .. all go through apprenticeships in Germany..</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/isarsteve/6488662499/" title="DIHK Berlin by IsarSteve, on Flickr"><img class="align-center" src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7005/6488662499_e856b5f6dd.jpg" alt="DIHK Berlin" height="375" width="500"/></a>This is why German industry does well.. hard work and training..</p> And now Hungary and the Czech…tag:harringayonline.com,2011-12-15:844301:Comment:3271302011-12-15T20:51:20.736ZJohn McMullanhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/bogan72
<p>And now Hungary and the Czech Republic...</p>
<p>America will step in, they own a lot of European debt, much more than anyone else. They can just print money too, it will piss off the Chinese but perhaps that's not so bad. Do I hear a two trillion dollar bazooka yet?</p>
<p>And now Hungary and the Czech Republic...</p>
<p>America will step in, they own a lot of European debt, much more than anyone else. They can just print money too, it will piss off the Chinese but perhaps that's not so bad. Do I hear a two trillion dollar bazooka yet?</p> Did you read the comments? I…tag:harringayonline.com,2011-12-15:844301:Comment:3272712011-12-15T20:22:36.554ZJohn McMullanhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/bogan72
<p>Did you read the comments? I know the N29 was bad but being compared to Mos Eisley was quite harsh.</p>
<p>At least when you had a new baby you knew normal sleep would return at some point. Or if you were on a flight to the other side of the world you did not actually need to sleep as there was a bed at the other end.</p>
<p>As for this: "<em>You do feel for them, because one day it could be me, it could be any one of us in that situation.</em>", I always suspected that some of those bus…</p>
<p>Did you read the comments? I know the N29 was bad but being compared to Mos Eisley was quite harsh.</p>
<p>At least when you had a new baby you knew normal sleep would return at some point. Or if you were on a flight to the other side of the world you did not actually need to sleep as there was a bed at the other end.</p>
<p>As for this: "<em>You do feel for them, because one day it could be me, it could be any one of us in that situation.</em>", I always suspected that some of those bus drivers were actually just doing it for the money.</p> Going OT but just to prove my…tag:harringayonline.com,2011-12-15:844301:Comment:3272572011-12-15T11:00:15.130ZStephenBlnhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/IsarSteve
<p>Going OT but just to prove my point :</p>
<p>This SPECULATION from the BBC today - taken by many to be the 'real truth' but actually just '<em>in the tories pocket Peston</em>' ranting on and talking down the Euro as usual..</p>
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<p>Small correction: I meant to write Sweden & Denmark both outside of the Eurozone.. only Denmark & the UK…</p>
<p>Going OT but just to prove my point :</p>
<p>This SPECULATION from the BBC today - taken by many to be the 'real truth' but actually just '<em>in the tories pocket Peston</em>' ranting on and talking down the Euro as usual..</p>
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<p>Small correction: I meant to write Sweden & Denmark both outside of the Eurozone.. only Denmark & the UK have an opt out but Denmark has said it will eventually join, that's why all these countries voted against the UK.</p> Extraordinary. Grim. Sad.tag:harringayonline.com,2011-12-15:844301:Comment:3269362011-12-15T09:20:41.968ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>Extraordinary. Grim. Sad.</p>
<p>Extraordinary. Grim. Sad.</p> it was me. you can read the a…tag:harringayonline.com,2011-12-15:844301:Comment:3269322011-12-15T09:02:59.364ZProtheroe O'Sheahttps://harringayonline.com/profile/TunbridgeWells
<p>it was me. you can read the article <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/patrick-butler-cuts-blog/2011/dec/09/homeless-end-of-line-for-bendy-bus-rough-sleepers" target="_blank">here.</a></p>
<p>it was me. you can read the article <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/patrick-butler-cuts-blog/2011/dec/09/homeless-end-of-line-for-bendy-bus-rough-sleepers" target="_blank">here.</a></p> I don't think that was me, Ma…tag:harringayonline.com,2011-12-15:844301:Comment:3269292011-12-15T08:34:50.329ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>I don't think that was me, Matt. A different Hugh (hue)?</p>
<p>I don't think that was me, Matt. A different Hugh (hue)?</p>