Council awful to homeless people - Harringay online2024-03-29T08:14:38Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/council-awful-to-homeless-people?commentId=844301%3AComment%3A856872&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI agree that it's not a good…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-04-08:844301:Comment:8594712016-04-08T03:48:50.645ZSarahhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/SarahMoore195
I agree that it's not a good letter, but I live in the area and you can't deny that there is a problem with the many campervans here (I'm thinking of those on Avenue Road and Caradon Way in particular) that people are living in. It's highly unpleasant to walk home past people urinating next to their vans. Tbh I live alone and I do feel uncomfortable walking past a line of them to get home.<br />
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They seem to park up wherever they feel like it whether parking is allowed or not - for example I think…
I agree that it's not a good letter, but I live in the area and you can't deny that there is a problem with the many campervans here (I'm thinking of those on Avenue Road and Caradon Way in particular) that people are living in. It's highly unpleasant to walk home past people urinating next to their vans. Tbh I live alone and I do feel uncomfortable walking past a line of them to get home.<br />
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They seem to park up wherever they feel like it whether parking is allowed or not - for example I think in Caradon Way vehicles are supposed to have a permit.<br />
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Why can't they park up at a campsite where there are facilities?<br />
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Back to the letter - the council could not actually take legal action without evidence you are sleeping in the van (and you are not). The letter is not even addressed to you so the next step would be for them to enquire with the DVLA as to the registered keeper of a vehicle that was causing a problem. They have to be certain they are asking for a legitimate reason and the DVLA does carry out audits regarding this. No need for a parking permit…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-04-02:844301:Comment:8570492016-04-02T17:28:31.298ZLucihttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Luci
<p>No need for a parking permit on Gorleston Road (or Newsam Avenue) - not sure about Ida Road which is an estate - it's (just) outside the CPZ. Though it presumably is registered</p>
<p>No need for a parking permit on Gorleston Road (or Newsam Avenue) - not sure about Ida Road which is an estate - it's (just) outside the CPZ. Though it presumably is registered</p> Wow, that letter is pretty he…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-04-02:844301:Comment:8567212016-04-02T16:46:23.247ZAngelahttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Angela
<p>Wow, that letter is pretty heavy handed, particularly the bit which says the recipient has been reported to the Immigration Services - lots of assumptions there.</p>
<p>And the Council Officer doesn't know how to write a letter properly; it should end Yours faithfully.</p>
<p>Wow, that letter is pretty heavy handed, particularly the bit which says the recipient has been reported to the Immigration Services - lots of assumptions there.</p>
<p>And the Council Officer doesn't know how to write a letter properly; it should end Yours faithfully.</p> Send it to the local press...…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-04-02:844301:Comment:8567842016-04-02T10:44:50.657ZAntoinettehttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AntoinetteVCarter
Send it to the local press...see if they want to run with it. I couldn't see the letter when I tried to open it... Hugh is it possible for you to work your magic and paste it into a post?
Send it to the local press...see if they want to run with it. I couldn't see the letter when I tried to open it... Hugh is it possible for you to work your magic and paste it into a post? Looks like they officer has i…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-04-02:844301:Comment:8569562016-04-02T09:08:15.939Zmatthttps://harringayonline.com/profile/mburge
<p>Looks like they officer has issued a standard letter to a number of vehicles in the area so not you specifically. Crass way of doing things.</p>
<p>Looks like they officer has issued a standard letter to a number of vehicles in the area so not you specifically. Crass way of doing things.</p> I agree it's not a good lette…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-04-02:844301:Comment:8568832016-04-02T09:06:57.553ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>I agree it's not a good letter. I hope your post will help bring it to the attention of the Council and they can arrange to rewrite it. </p>
<p>I suppose the letter is intended to carry some legal force. So, to that extent it needs to contain some clear messages in formal language. Nonetheless, there would still be plenty of room for a more understanding approach and perhaps some references to agencies who can help. </p>
<p>I imagine that many of us would hope for the Council to do more to…</p>
<p>I agree it's not a good letter. I hope your post will help bring it to the attention of the Council and they can arrange to rewrite it. </p>
<p>I suppose the letter is intended to carry some legal force. So, to that extent it needs to contain some clear messages in formal language. Nonetheless, there would still be plenty of room for a more understanding approach and perhaps some references to agencies who can help. </p>
<p>I imagine that many of us would hope for the Council to do more to help. I imagine the reality of the situation is that with funding cut to the bone, they're not keen to encourage any behaviour that will bring rough sleepers into Haringey. It's a copy of the governmental response to immigration we're seeing played out on a global scale - make it unattractive for them to be here and they'll be less likely to come. </p> I realise its mistaken identi…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-04-02:844301:Comment:8569502016-04-02T08:49:20.870ZJonathanhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Jonathan997
I realise its mistaken identity. That's not my concern. What I'm appalled by is the treatment of homeless people by haringey council. The council is there to support people not threaten them!
I realise its mistaken identity. That's not my concern. What I'm appalled by is the treatment of homeless people by haringey council. The council is there to support people not threaten them! Anyone got Alan Bennett's pho…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-04-02:844301:Comment:8569472016-04-02T08:48:15.042ZPhiliphttps://harringayonline.com/profile/PhilipFoxe
<p>Anyone got Alan Bennett's phone number?</p>
<p>Anyone got Alan Bennett's phone number?</p> Here's the letter I found on…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-04-02:844301:Comment:8569432016-04-02T08:45:47.109ZJonathanhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/Jonathan997
<p>Here's the letter I found on my windscreen. I've now seen same letter on car nearby. (Ps to clarify, I live in house and park campervan in street outside.</p>
<p><a href="http://api.ning.com/files/iWYakHOp-CEw7aBOqtYTm*7ZFqardgyJsNVoBuhXg-uSu7LTh44tK1zvFVScbajV4aLzbdi0qwyXftcp8j*YyMibld4U8izS/image.jpg" target="_self"><img src="http://api.ning.com/files/iWYakHOp-CEw7aBOqtYTm*7ZFqardgyJsNVoBuhXg-uSu7LTh44tK1zvFVScbajV4aLzbdi0qwyXftcp8j*YyMibld4U8izS/image.jpg" class="align-full"/></a></p>
<p>Here's the letter I found on my windscreen. I've now seen same letter on car nearby. (Ps to clarify, I live in house and park campervan in street outside.</p>
<p><a href="http://api.ning.com/files/iWYakHOp-CEw7aBOqtYTm*7ZFqardgyJsNVoBuhXg-uSu7LTh44tK1zvFVScbajV4aLzbdi0qwyXftcp8j*YyMibld4U8izS/image.jpg" target="_self"><img src="http://api.ning.com/files/iWYakHOp-CEw7aBOqtYTm*7ZFqardgyJsNVoBuhXg-uSu7LTh44tK1zvFVScbajV4aLzbdi0qwyXftcp8j*YyMibld4U8izS/image.jpg" class="align-full"/></a></p> It's not a joke. I've seen ve…tag:harringayonline.com,2016-04-02:844301:Comment:8568722016-04-02T07:40:32.130ZAntoinettehttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AntoinetteVCarter
It's not a joke. I've seen very similar letters at the Council where I work. I think it probably is a case of mistaken identity in that there probably is someone living in a camper van pissing and shitting in the street that may not always park in the same place (which possibly isn't registered to an address) and they have simply attached the letter to the wrong van.
It's not a joke. I've seen very similar letters at the Council where I work. I think it probably is a case of mistaken identity in that there probably is someone living in a camper van pissing and shitting in the street that may not always park in the same place (which possibly isn't registered to an address) and they have simply attached the letter to the wrong van.