Beautiful mature street tree in Cavendish Road scheduled for removal -- help! - Harringay online2024-03-29T06:42:10Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/beautiful-mature-street-tree-in-cavendish-road-scheduled-for?feed=yes&xn_auth=noHugh, I read the Treeconomics…tag:harringayonline.com,2017-05-14:844301:Comment:9866072017-05-14T20:47:37.622ZAlan Stantonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AlanStanton
<p>Hugh, I read the Treeconomics report when it was published. It seemed to me a very positive document, not least because it indicated strong cross-party agreement about the vital importance of London's trees. Also because the report stated that the work was shared between a number of bodies clearly listed in the report. And many volunteers who were credited by name.</p>
<p>At Zena Brabazon's request I took photos of the threatened tree in Cavendish Road. I also posted them on…</p>
<p>Hugh, I read the Treeconomics report when it was published. It seemed to me a very positive document, not least because it indicated strong cross-party agreement about the vital importance of London's trees. Also because the report stated that the work was shared between a number of bodies clearly listed in the report. And many volunteers who were credited by name.</p>
<p>At Zena Brabazon's request I took photos of the threatened tree in Cavendish Road. I also posted them on <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanstanton/34352647866/" target="_blank">my photoblog - adding</a> a link to Google Street View to give an <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5790626,-0.1033012,127a,35y,112.14h,45t/data=!3m1!1e3" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">aerial view</span>.</a> <br/>From above, it's apparent how much more tree cover is provided by garden trees on these Ladder roads than by street trees. (I'm not suggesting this justifies removing street trees!)<br/><br/>By contrast an aerial view of the streets near my own home in Tottenham Hale gives the impression of far fewer trees, and many more rear structures such as garages, sheds, and patios.</p> Thanks for the inside view.tag:harringayonline.com,2017-05-14:844301:Comment:9864902017-05-14T15:56:10.820ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>Thanks for the inside view.</p>
<p>Thanks for the inside view.</p> Actually, Hugh, a few of us i…tag:harringayonline.com,2017-05-14:844301:Comment:9867522017-05-14T13:18:18.529ZChris Setzhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/ChrisSetz
<p>Actually, Hugh, a few of us in Haringey took part in this survey - it's not a street-tree one. The Forestry Commission did it, Treeconomics acted as one of the consultants. Around 600 plots throughout London were chosen at random to be visited and the trees on the plots counted - a few of mine contained none at all, and some were in back gardens, some in Golf courses etc.</p>
<p>To be honest, I didn't think much of the survey at all (too small and random). They also missed the chance,…</p>
<p>Actually, Hugh, a few of us in Haringey took part in this survey - it's not a street-tree one. The Forestry Commission did it, Treeconomics acted as one of the consultants. Around 600 plots throughout London were chosen at random to be visited and the trees on the plots counted - a few of mine contained none at all, and some were in back gardens, some in Golf courses etc.</p>
<p>To be honest, I didn't think much of the survey at all (too small and random). They also missed the chance, having recruited teams of 'citizen' tree surveyors, to grow (or even engage with) those teams in future.</p> PS: Maren, if you haven't pre…tag:harringayonline.com,2017-05-14:844301:Comment:9866552017-05-14T10:12:07.323ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>PS: Maren, if you haven't previously heard of it, you may be interested to have a look through the <a href="http://www.treeconomics.co.uk/about-treeconomics" target="_blank">Treeconomics website</a>. They work with community groups, research organisations, public bodies and private business to complete projects which highlight the value of trees. I'm attaching a copy of a study they published in 2015 on London's Street trees.</p>
<p>PS: Maren, if you haven't previously heard of it, you may be interested to have a look through the <a href="http://www.treeconomics.co.uk/about-treeconomics" target="_blank">Treeconomics website</a>. They work with community groups, research organisations, public bodies and private business to complete projects which highlight the value of trees. I'm attaching a copy of a study they published in 2015 on London's Street trees.</p> Read more about London's (and…tag:harringayonline.com,2017-05-14:844301:Comment:9865732017-05-14T09:54:58.029ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>Read more about London's (and Haringey's) street trees <a href="http://www.harringayonline.com/forum/topics/haringey-one-of-few-laggard-london-boroughs-failing-to-provide-st" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>Read more about London's (and Haringey's) street trees <a href="http://www.harringayonline.com/forum/topics/haringey-one-of-few-laggard-london-boroughs-failing-to-provide-st" target="_blank">here</a>.</p> The Council's Aboriculturalis…tag:harringayonline.com,2017-05-03:844301:Comment:9834612017-05-03T21:45:16.610ZChris Setzhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/ChrisSetz
<p>The Council's Aboriculturalists organise to go round the borough in swathes maintaining street trees. <a href="http://www.haringey.gov.uk/environment-and-waste/nature-and-conservation/trees#maintenance" target="_blank">The maintenance schedule (PDF files) is on this page</a>- here below I've copied the latest ones - pretty much every street is in there somewhere, so it's possible to discover from them when yours is next due for some TLC:…</p>
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<p>The Council's Aboriculturalists organise to go round the borough in swathes maintaining street trees. <a href="http://www.haringey.gov.uk/environment-and-waste/nature-and-conservation/trees#maintenance" target="_blank">The maintenance schedule (PDF files) is on this page</a>- here below I've copied the latest ones - pretty much every street is in there somewhere, so it's possible to discover from them when yours is next due for some TLC:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.haringey.gov.uk/sites/haringeygovuk/files/street_tree_maintenance_programme_2016-17_summer_works.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=32276">Street tree maintenance programme 2016-17 (summer works)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.haringey.gov.uk/sites/haringeygovuk/files/street_tree_maintenance_programme2016-17_winter_works.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=12905">Street tree maintenance programme 2016-17 (winter works)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.haringey.gov.uk/sites/haringeygovuk/files/street_tree_maintenance_programme_2017-18_summer_works_0.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=24509">Street tree maintenance programme 2017-18 (summer works)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.haringey.gov.uk/sites/haringeygovuk/files/street_tree_maintenance_programme_2017-18_winter_works_pdf.pdf" type="application/pdf; length=15941">Street tree maintenance programme 2017-18 (winter works)</a></p>
<p></p> Ah -- and I always thought th…tag:harringayonline.com,2017-05-03:844301:Comment:9832152017-05-03T21:26:05.081ZMaren Meinhardthttps://harringayonline.com/profile/MarenMeinhardt
<p>Ah -- and I always thought those on your side of the track looked so well looked after! "My" tree, though, has been pruned quite severely only recently. I can't remember what the pruning cycle has been over the years, but I'm sure this is something that would benefit from keeping an eye on.</p>
<p>Ah -- and I always thought those on your side of the track looked so well looked after! "My" tree, though, has been pruned quite severely only recently. I can't remember what the pruning cycle has been over the years, but I'm sure this is something that would benefit from keeping an eye on.</p> Re. Stapleton Hall Road. Seve…tag:harringayonline.com,2017-05-03:844301:Comment:9833932017-05-03T21:20:14.272ZAlexander Smithhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AlexanderSmith
<p>Re. Stapleton Hall Road. Several trees have been removed over the years, one only last year. In the stretch from Elyne Road to Mount View, on the western side, a lot of the houses have suffered badly with subsidence and have been underpinned, including mine. I wish the trees were trimmed each year; in fact (the last I heard) they are supposed to be on a three-yearly pruning cycle. Originally (pre 1980s) they came each year to prune every other tree. If this had continued, and the trees had…</p>
<p>Re. Stapleton Hall Road. Several trees have been removed over the years, one only last year. In the stretch from Elyne Road to Mount View, on the western side, a lot of the houses have suffered badly with subsidence and have been underpinned, including mine. I wish the trees were trimmed each year; in fact (the last I heard) they are supposed to be on a three-yearly pruning cycle. Originally (pre 1980s) they came each year to prune every other tree. If this had continued, and the trees had been kept to a sensible height, I don't doubt that more of them would have survived and those which remain would be less at risk (and the buildings less at risk of subsidence also).</p> Ah yes, sorry. They said they…tag:harringayonline.com,2017-05-03:844301:Comment:9830172017-05-03T09:15:24.208ZMaren Meinhardthttps://harringayonline.com/profile/MarenMeinhardt
<p>Ah yes, sorry. They said they were going to hold off from removing it until they had looked at possible alternatives. That sounded reasonable to me. I completely see that there are different perspectives to be taken into account, but I believe that ways can and should be found in which we can coexist with mature trees rather than chopping them down.</p>
<p>Ah yes, sorry. They said they were going to hold off from removing it until they had looked at possible alternatives. That sounded reasonable to me. I completely see that there are different perspectives to be taken into account, but I believe that ways can and should be found in which we can coexist with mature trees rather than chopping them down.</p> So whathe has the Council sai…tag:harringayonline.com,2017-05-03:844301:Comment:9830842017-05-03T07:36:05.095ZAntoinettehttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AntoinetteVCarter
So whathe has the Council said?
So whathe has the Council said?