A whiff of scandal, the chink of coin, a dose of mismanagement and the Grand Old Man of Cricket: Harringay Cricket Field in the Golden Age of Cricket - Harringay online2024-03-28T13:10:36Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/a-whiff-of-scandal-the-chink-of-coin-a-dose-of-mismanagement-and-?groupUrl=historyofharringay&commentId=844301%3AComment%3A1451741&groupId=844301%3AGroup%3A10&feed=yes&xn_auth=noMany thanks for information.tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-18:844301:Comment:14521082021-09-18T21:06:12.233ZGeoffrey Walkerhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/GeoffreyWalker
<p>Many thanks for information.</p>
<p>Many thanks for information.</p> Thanks for that. Here's a bit…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-17:844301:Comment:14519682021-09-17T20:12:10.507ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>Thanks for that. Here's a bit more on that match,</p>
<blockquote><p>There was a North London Derby with a difference at Finsbury Park on July 29, 1973, when we faced Arsenal for the Austin Morris Empire Trophy. Around 5,000 spectators turned out, raising approximately £1,500 for the Woodberry Down Boy’s Club, Manor House.</p>
<p>The respective managers Bill Nicholson and Bertie Mee officiated as umpires in a 30 over match. Arsenal scored 178 with Geoff Barnett top scoring with 67 and Ralph…</p>
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<p>Thanks for that. Here's a bit more on that match,</p>
<blockquote><p>There was a North London Derby with a difference at Finsbury Park on July 29, 1973, when we faced Arsenal for the Austin Morris Empire Trophy. Around 5,000 spectators turned out, raising approximately £1,500 for the Woodberry Down Boy’s Club, Manor House.</p>
<p>The respective managers Bill Nicholson and Bertie Mee officiated as umpires in a 30 over match. Arsenal scored 178 with Geoff Barnett top scoring with 67 and Ralph Coates, Phil Beal, Roger Morgan and Cyril Knowles claiming two wickets apiece.</p>
<p>We responded with 160, Knowles our leading run maker with 45 followed by Morgan with 35. Our team also included John Pratt, Ray Evans, Martin Peters, Martin Chivers, Mike Dillon, Jimmy Neighbour and Pat Jennings.</p>
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<p>The above is extracted from an article about Tottenham Hotspur Cricket Club written by Tottenham FC historian Andy Porter. An abbreviated form of Porter's full piece <a href="https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/may-article-import/2016/tottenham-hotspur-cricket-club/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">appears on the Spurs website</a>.</p>
<p>Can you imagine 5,000 spectators on that corner of the park!</p>
<p>Below is a photo of Arsenal player <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Ball_Jr." target="_blank" rel="noopener">Alan Ball</a> walking up for his innings at the 1973 match. Behind him is one of the houses in Endymion Road (probably number 50). Ball was the youngest member of the 1966 Wold Cup England squad and is credited with having set up the crucial third goal. </p>
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<p>Next is a low quality copy of the front-page of the four-page programme that was produced for the Harringay charity match.</p>
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<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/9577941890?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/9577941890?profile=RESIZE_710x" class="align-center"/></a></p> I seem to remember an Arsenal…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-17:844301:Comment:14517412021-09-17T17:25:03.682ZGeoffrey Walkerhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/GeoffreyWalker
<p>I seem to remember an Arsenal v. 'Spurs cricket match was played on this ground just before the 1972-3 season (?) which I think Arsenal won.</p>
<p>I seem to remember an Arsenal v. 'Spurs cricket match was played on this ground just before the 1972-3 season (?) which I think Arsenal won.</p> That is true but it is such a…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-17:844301:Comment:14518652021-09-17T16:13:19.445ZRichard Woodshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/RichardWoods
<p>That is true but it is such a super yarn I feel somehow sad I never found it. And there is definitely a whiff of something unsavoury in the acquisition of the right to let the ground!</p>
<p>That is true but it is such a super yarn I feel somehow sad I never found it. And there is definitely a whiff of something unsavoury in the acquisition of the right to let the ground!</p> To be fair to you, historical…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-17:844301:Comment:14518592021-09-17T16:03:11.297ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>To be fair to you, historical research is a lot easier these days. </p>
<p>To be fair to you, historical research is a lot easier these days. </p> Great story Hugh and thank yo…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-17:844301:Comment:14517852021-09-17T15:50:52.652ZRichard Woodshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/RichardWoods
<p>Great story Hugh and thank you. However I feel slightly ashamed since I never discovered any of it when Finsbury Park was on my patch as the Harringay reporter for the Hornsey Journal!</p>
<p>Well, Lords was owned by a Mr Lord so it was common practice. </p>
<p>Great story Hugh and thank you. However I feel slightly ashamed since I never discovered any of it when Finsbury Park was on my patch as the Harringay reporter for the Hornsey Journal!</p>
<p>Well, Lords was owned by a Mr Lord so it was common practice. </p> I know that it’s leased to th…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-17:844301:Comment:14509062021-09-17T12:38:34.697ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>I know that it’s leased to the Mets. This research made me wonder if it’s been leased ever since Masterman took it on in 1889.</p>
<p>I know that it’s leased to the Mets. This research made me wonder if it’s been leased ever since Masterman took it on in 1889.</p> When I first moved to Harring…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-17:844301:Comment:14509032021-09-17T12:30:52.465ZPaul Soperhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/PaulSoper
<p>When I first moved to Harringay in 1968 the cricket pitch was still in enthusiastic use, especially the nets where early evening practice seemed to take place every evening and every group of residents seemed to be using the facilities - at some late time (70's?) Haringey, the borough, seemed to take exception to organised sport and the use of the ground for cricket stopped. Subsequently it seems to be reserved for the exclusive use of Baseball and American Softball - very few people seem…</p>
<p>When I first moved to Harringay in 1968 the cricket pitch was still in enthusiastic use, especially the nets where early evening practice seemed to take place every evening and every group of residents seemed to be using the facilities - at some late time (70's?) Haringey, the borough, seemed to take exception to organised sport and the use of the ground for cricket stopped. Subsequently it seems to be reserved for the exclusive use of Baseball and American Softball - very few people seem to use the facility at all. What is the story behind this I wonder? Does anyone know? Was it Haringey dislike of competitive activity or my faulty memory?</p> Thanks for a very interesting…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-17:844301:Comment:14507012021-09-17T07:30:39.770ZAndrew Mawbyhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/AndrewMawby
<p>Thanks for a very interesting article.</p>
<p>Regarding the Brooklyn v Atlanta match, I recall reading somewhere that cricket was popular in the USA up to the time of the civil war, at which point the manpower required for pitch preparation made it less popular compared to the much simpler requirements of baseball. It is certainly true that the first ever recorded international cricket match was between the USA and Canada. Anyway, it might mean that the teams could well have been US…</p>
<p>Thanks for a very interesting article.</p>
<p>Regarding the Brooklyn v Atlanta match, I recall reading somewhere that cricket was popular in the USA up to the time of the civil war, at which point the manpower required for pitch preparation made it less popular compared to the much simpler requirements of baseball. It is certainly true that the first ever recorded international cricket match was between the USA and Canada. Anyway, it might mean that the teams could well have been US tourists.</p> It was normal practice at tha…tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-17:844301:Comment:14506932021-09-17T07:20:07.715ZJoanna Bornathttps://harringayonline.com/profile/JoannaBornat
<p>It was normal practice at that time for shop assistants to be accommodated on the premises of large stores, rather like live-in servants which is what of course they were. </p>
<p>It was normal practice at that time for shop assistants to be accommodated on the premises of large stores, rather like live-in servants which is what of course they were. </p>