All Discussions Tagged 'st anns ltn' - Harringay online2024-03-29T08:38:57Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topic/listForTag?tag=st+anns+ltn&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSt Ann’s LTN: motorcycle racetracktag:harringayonline.com,2022-11-04:844301:Topic:15150482022-11-04T20:53:38.638ZDonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/DonKeller
<p>This is really an adjunct to the existing LTN discussion threads.</p>
<p>My road in St Ann’s — previously so quiet it almost had tumbleweed blowing down it — has now become a scooter/motorbike racetrack. Because the LTN has clogged up West Green and St Ann’s roads, the newly “liberated” streets in the LTN are so clear that bikes can get up to top speed in just a few yards and they’re apparently exempt when crossing the LTN borders in the middle of the ward. This makes north/south travel for…</p>
<p>This is really an adjunct to the existing LTN discussion threads.</p>
<p>My road in St Ann’s — previously so quiet it almost had tumbleweed blowing down it — has now become a scooter/motorbike racetrack. Because the LTN has clogged up West Green and St Ann’s roads, the newly “liberated” streets in the LTN are so clear that bikes can get up to top speed in just a few yards and they’re apparently exempt when crossing the LTN borders in the middle of the ward. This makes north/south travel for scooters and motorbikes even faster and more attractive in the LTN than it was before.</p>
<p>So much for safer streets; it can now be more dangerous to cross the road than it was, not less. Has anyone else noticed this in their road?</p>
<p></p> St Ann's LTN start date - 22 Augusttag:harringayonline.com,2022-08-04:844301:Topic:15009342022-08-04T15:25:40.789ZGeoff Amabilinohttps://harringayonline.com/profile/GeoffAmabilino
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<p>I'm not sure whether this has been shared elsewhere on HOL - can't see it in a search but...</p>
<p>We have recently received a note through our front door that the St Ann's Low Traffic Neighbourhood will be implemented on 22 August.</p>
<p>This is a heads-up for anyone living in or driving through the area between West Green Road and St…</p>
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<p>I'm not sure whether this has been shared elsewhere on HOL - can't see it in a search but...</p>
<p>We have recently received a note through our front door that the St Ann's Low Traffic Neighbourhood will be implemented on 22 August.</p>
<p>This is a heads-up for anyone living in or driving through the area between West Green Road and St Ann's Road. There will no longer be a direct route between the two major roads unless you are a bus or have a 'X2' exemption pass. </p>
<p>Woodlands Park Road, Black Boy Lane, Cornwall Road and Avenue Road will all be closed to through traffic. </p>
<p>The restriction points will be monitored by CCTV, so no doubt LBH will be issuing lots of PCNs! Drivers beware!</p>
<p>I attach two documents, one a map of the area showing the traffic cells as they will be after implementation, and the other the supporting document.</p> Council officers recommend St Ann's and Bruce Grove LTNs get green lighttag:harringayonline.com,2021-11-30:844301:Topic:14663922021-11-30T21:08:01.481ZMalc Bhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/MalcolmB
<p><a href="https://www.minutes.haringey.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=118&MId=9827&Ver=4&s=09" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Hot off the press</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.minutes.haringey.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=118&MId=9827&Ver=4&s=09" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Hot off the press</a></p> Who are "Healthy Streets St Ann's"?tag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-25:844301:Topic:14539212021-09-25T13:28:10.202ZDonhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/DonKeller
<p>Shortly before the consultation on the St Ann's LTN closed, I - and presumably others in my street - received a leaflet through the door from a group called "Healthy Streets St Ann's", urging residents to vote for Option A (the more draconian road closures) in the Council's LTN proposals. The leaflet is well-designed, typeset and properly printed; it doesn't appear to have been knocked-up hastily on somebody's PC and printer. There's also a professional-looking website, so presumably there's…</p>
<p>Shortly before the consultation on the St Ann's LTN closed, I - and presumably others in my street - received a leaflet through the door from a group called "Healthy Streets St Ann's", urging residents to vote for Option A (the more draconian road closures) in the Council's LTN proposals. The leaflet is well-designed, typeset and properly printed; it doesn't appear to have been knocked-up hastily on somebody's PC and printer. There's also a professional-looking website, so presumably there's some finance behind this pressure group, which says it's "a community group set up by residents in 2019". </p>
<p>The one thing neither the leaflet nor the website do is to identify anyone involved as initiating, leading or steering the group, and the only contact information is a gmail address. Obviously, campaigning for something is fine, but without any indication as to who's actually behind it, it lays the campaign open to suspicion that it may not be what it says it is - in fact, unlikely though it seems, it could even be a Council initiative disguising itself as a grassroots movement, rather than the independent entity it says it is. I've no memory of being consulted about the group's creation or membership in 2019, or being asked to join (albeit that I might have missed something), so I wonder which community it represents? Is it two people and a web-designer? Is it a mere handful of the 15,895 residents of St Ann's ward or is it a substantial number?</p>
<p>I'd be very surprised if those involved aren't also members of HoL, so perhaps they'd like to identify themselves now? I realise personal safety is important - nobody wants to be trolled or harassed, and I'm not suggesting anyone gives details that would open them up to this. But in assessing the merits or demerits of a campaign group's arguments, it adds credence to the pitch if the recipient knows a) who's making it and b) that they're not something other than what they purport to be. </p>
<p>So - if you're there, Healthy Streets St Ann's, who are you?</p> St Ann's LTN AKA Pedestrian ONLY Nightmaretag:harringayonline.com,2021-09-13:844301:Topic:14502742021-09-13T16:12:44.898ZIan Jackson-Reeveshttps://harringayonline.com/profile/IanJacksonReeves
<p>Just gone through in detail the consultation associated with Low Traffic Neighbourhoods. The word Low seems to be a euphemism, no traffic neighbourhood seems to be the order of the day.</p>
<p>I do not understand where the council officers get their data. They state that the majority of residents do not own or use a car. So why is it so difficult to park even if you have a parking permit for the CPZ?</p>
<p>I have a disabled daughter and a wife with ME/Chronic fatigue and there will be no…</p>
<p>Just gone through in detail the consultation associated with Low Traffic Neighbourhoods. The word Low seems to be a euphemism, no traffic neighbourhood seems to be the order of the day.</p>
<p>I do not understand where the council officers get their data. They state that the majority of residents do not own or use a car. So why is it so difficult to park even if you have a parking permit for the CPZ?</p>
<p>I have a disabled daughter and a wife with ME/Chronic fatigue and there will be no allowances for disabled access in either option. Roads are being shut to traffic, the surrounding area will be grid locked at times impacting the buses. With many of the roads having almost only one way in, how do they get deliveries and the refuse lorries in and around the area. The roads are too narrow for even a 7.5 tonne truck to turn around in. It will be difficult for cars to do three point turns.</p>
<p>I have lived in London since 1979, and in the borough since 1988 and in the St Ann's area since 1997. We have loved it. We raised both our children in the area and our disabled daughter (an adult now) has a support system in place.</p>
<p>We have asked for simple measures to make the roads safer without serious disruption to traffic flow. simple speed and weight limit enforcement would make a huge difference, but the council solution is an LTN which will drive a local garage out of business and make driving around the area almost impossible.</p>
<p>I am not in a minority of one, just come round the area and count the number of parked cars.</p>
<p>If this proposal goes through, I will have to take the early retirement I cannot afford and move away from the city I love.</p>
<p></p> St Ann's Low Traffic Consultationtag:harringayonline.com,2021-08-18:844301:Topic:14451462021-08-18T12:24:11.636ZHoL Site Adminhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/SiteAdmin
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<p><br></br> <br></br>The consultation on the St Ann's Low Traffic neighbourhood scheme is running from this week for a month.</p>
<p>Essentially, it offers two options. Option A closes most roads to through traffic. Option B leaves some roads open to through traffic.</p>
<p>The leaflet explaining the scheme is attached.</p>
<p>You can have your say and also see…</p>
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<p><br/> <br/>The consultation on the St Ann's Low Traffic neighbourhood scheme is running from this week for a month.</p>
<p>Essentially, it offers two options. Option A closes most roads to through traffic. Option B leaves some roads open to through traffic.</p>
<p>The leaflet explaining the scheme is attached.</p>
<p>You can have your say and also see the Bounds Green and Bruce Grove schemes on the <a href="https://www.haringey.gov.uk/parking-roads-and-travel/travel/transport-strategy/low-traffic-neighbourhoods-haringey/low-traffic-neighbourhoods-public-consultation#intro" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Haringey website</a>.</p>
<p></p> St Ann's and Bruce Grove Low traffic Neighbourhoodstag:harringayonline.com,2021-02-11:844301:Topic:14103752021-02-11T10:38:40.719ZAndrewAW1https://harringayonline.com/profile/Andrew499
<p>I've seen various references to these on the site but not a post explicitly about them.</p>
<p>There are proposed low traffic neighbourhoods for St. Ann's <a href="https://stannsltnmap.commonplace.is/">https://stannsltnmap.commonplace.is/</a> and Bruce Grove/Tottenham <a href="https://tottenhambrucegroveltn.commonplace.is/">https://tottenhambrucegroveltn.commonplace.is/</a> Comments and thoughts around these can be added at the links.</p>
<p>Obviously there are other areas of Haringey that…</p>
<p>I've seen various references to these on the site but not a post explicitly about them.</p>
<p>There are proposed low traffic neighbourhoods for St. Ann's <a href="https://stannsltnmap.commonplace.is/">https://stannsltnmap.commonplace.is/</a> and Bruce Grove/Tottenham <a href="https://tottenhambrucegroveltn.commonplace.is/">https://tottenhambrucegroveltn.commonplace.is/</a> Comments and thoughts around these can be added at the links.</p>
<p>Obviously there are other areas of Haringey that this may impact. The obvious being the Ladder and the small area bounded by Langham Road, Belmont Road and West Green Road which seems to have been excluded from Bruce Grove for some reason.</p>
<p>It's also worth noting that the western boundary of the Bruce Grove LTN is a residential B road. This does give the possibility that any Ladder LTN would use Wightman as a boundary, with little reduction in traffic, rather than part of the LTN.</p>
<p><em><strong>(Note from Site Admin, see <a href="https://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/haringey-publishes-medium-term-plan-for-25-lo-traffic-neighbourho" target="_blank" rel="noopener">post added shortly before this one about LTNs in Haringey</a>)</strong></em></p>
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<p></p> More Street Closures in Areas around Harringay?tag:harringayonline.com,2019-10-26:844301:Topic:12002052019-10-26T11:08:08.788ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>A recent mailer from traffic organisation <a href="https://www.livingstreets.org.uk" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Living Streets</a> included the following:</p>
<blockquote>As a result of work with Haringey Living Streets, low traffic neighbourhood groups have formed in St Ann’s ward, Bruce Grove and Stroud Green.</blockquote>
<p>I know that the St Ann's one in the areas around Chestnuts Park proposes some clsoures. I suspect the Stroud Green one does too. Many of you will already be aware…</p>
<p>A recent mailer from traffic organisation <a href="https://www.livingstreets.org.uk" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Living Streets</a> included the following:</p>
<blockquote>As a result of work with Haringey Living Streets, low traffic neighbourhood groups have formed in St Ann’s ward, Bruce Grove and Stroud Green.</blockquote>
<p>I know that the St Ann's one in the areas around Chestnuts Park proposes some clsoures. I suspect the Stroud Green one does too. Many of you will already be aware of recent trials in Crouch End and Hornsey.</p>
<p>I'm pleased for all those areas. I hope they manage to reduce their traffic. But of course that raises the question of where all the displaced traffic will go. Last week's events offer ample demonstration of how little Haringey Council consider the impact of traffic on Ladder roads.</p>
<p>With or without the threat of traffic being displaced from nearby areas, one has to ask if now isn't the time for the Ladder to start considering asking for a <a href="https://londonlivingstreets.com/low-traffic-liveable-neighbourhoods/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Low Traffic Neighbourhood</a> of our own. Local experience suggests that the Council feel bound to accept a 'properly constituted bid' and engage in constructive dialogue. </p>
<p>The Living Streets mailer also says:</p>
<blockquote>A presentation from Haringey Council’s Head of Carbon Management Joe Baker included the announcement of two further Liveable Neighbourhood bids for Haringey in Tottenham.</blockquote>
<p>I assume that St Ann's is one of these.</p>
<p>If we do nothing, we'll only have ourselves to blame if we find ourselves surronded by yet more traffic free areas. So,</p>
<blockquote>If you would be interested in being put in contact with Haringey Living Streets members in your local area to join one of these groups, or to start your own group, please let us know!</blockquote>
<p>I've written asking if there's already a Harringay group. If not, I know there are people locally who are members. So setting up a group wouldn't be hard. Anyone for tennis?</p>
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