All Discussions Tagged 'lotus' - Harringay online2024-03-28T17:05:22Zhttps://harringayonline.com/forum/topic/listForTag?tag=lotus&feed=yes&xn_auth=no£1/4m or so to spare? Buy a sleek bit of Hornsey's motor racing Historytag:harringayonline.com,2022-09-09:844301:Topic:15068612022-09-09T09:22:34.273ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
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<p>This sleek 1955 Lotus-Bristol MK X Sports-race can be <a href="https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/bonhams/catalogue-id-bonham10460/lot-29142223-3a91-4fc4-b5b2-af0900e6a17d?utm_source=auction-alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=auction-alert&utm_content=lot-image-link" rel="noopener" target="_blank">yours for an…</a></p>
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<p>This sleek 1955 Lotus-Bristol MK X Sports-race can be <a href="https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/bonhams/catalogue-id-bonham10460/lot-29142223-3a91-4fc4-b5b2-af0900e6a17d?utm_source=auction-alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=auction-alert&utm_content=lot-image-link" target="_blank" rel="noopener">yours for an estimated £250,000 - £300.000</a>.</p>
<p>The auction catalogue says:</p>
<blockquote>Colin Chapman and his energetic young design team at the Lotus Engineering Company - based behind father Stan Chapman's public house, The Railway Hotel in Hornsey, North London - introduced the beautiful Lotus Mark X competition sports car in 1955.</blockquote>
<p>Please show it to me once you've bought it. </p>
<p></p> A Tudor Garage (amongst others) in Crouch Endtag:harringayonline.com,2020-01-10:844301:Topic:12122592020-01-10T17:29:32.062ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
<p>The other day I stumbled across this picture of an odd confection of the Tudor Garage in Crouch End.</p>
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<p>This business used to stand next to the Hope and Anchor on Tottenham Lane on the site now occupied by North Point flats.</p>
<p>I'm assuming the only logic behind the Tudoresque style is the contemporary penchant for building…</p>
<p>The other day I stumbled across this picture of an odd confection of the Tudor Garage in Crouch End.</p>
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<p>This business used to stand next to the Hope and Anchor on Tottenham Lane on the site now occupied by North Point flats.</p>
<p>I'm assuming the only logic behind the Tudoresque style is the contemporary penchant for building mock-Tudor.</p>
<p>The business arrived at this address in 1930/31. I'm not sure if it had been operating elsewhere prior to this date.</p>
<p>Above the first floor on the part of building on the left of the photo, you can just about make out evidence of the company's transition to its first new name of Capital Motors.</p>
<p>In the mid-1950s, a new building complemented the new name.</p>
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<p>The business subsequently changed hands and was bought by Spurling Motor Company, a north London Vauxhall dealership.</p>
<p>The building was demolished by the mid-1980s and the site lay empty for about ten years until the flats were built (1990s?). </p>
<p>I knew nothing about either of these buildings until recently. The site has a bit of a poignancy to me since the person who first brought me to N8 lived above one of the shops opposite. for the first few years that I knew it, the site was occupied by two huge billboards.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: 8pt;"><strong><em>Advert from c 1960</em></strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: 8pt;"><strong><em>Budget car rentals at Capital Motors, advert from c 1973</em></strong></span></p>
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<p>In checking on an earlier address for the Tudor Garage, I came across another early garage just down the road.</p>
<p>Lynne Frank & Wagstaff set up on what later became Kwik-Fit in 1919.</p>
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<p>Below is a picture showing the front of the garage in 1963.</p>
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<p>Both pictures come courtesy of <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/96561421@N06/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Roger Frost on Flickr</a>.</p>
<p>Lyne Frank moved out before the end of the century, but it seems that they still own the building, or that they have done until recently. (I discovered this when I searched their name on Google and was directed back to a fairly recent <a href="https://www.harringayonline.com/forum/topics/kwik-fit-crouch-end-gets-reprieve-from-development" target="_blank" rel="noopener">post on Harringay Online about a planning application</a> to develop the site for flats). </p>
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<p>I love this little snippet about LF& W from a 1931 local London newspaper.</p>
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<p>Just heard that the application to demolish the last bit of the old |Lotus works in Tottenham Lane has been refused - hooray <a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2058676909?profile=original" target="_self">E_12459743-1.aww</a></p>
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<p>Just heard that the application to demolish the last bit of the old |Lotus works in Tottenham Lane has been refused - hooray <a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2058676909?profile=original" target="_self">E_12459743-1.aww</a></p>
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<p></p> DEMOLITION OF COLIN CHAPMAN / LOTUS CARS SITE IN TOTTENHAM LANEtag:harringayonline.com,2015-02-10:844301:Topic:7251252015-02-10T23:08:28.901ZLesley Rammhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/LesleyRamm
<p><b>Anyone interested in local history, Lotus Cars or F1 may wish to know about a recent planning application to demolish the site where Lotus racing Cars began in Tottenham Lane in 1953</b></p>
<p>Planning Application No. HGY/2015/0311<a href="http://www.haringey.gov.uk/sites/haringeygovuk/files/register_of_local_listed_buildings_of_merit.pdf">http://www.haringey.gov.uk/sites/haringeygovuk/files/register_of_local_listed_buildings_of_merit.pdf</a></p>
<p>I have just submitted my own objection…</p>
<p><b>Anyone interested in local history, Lotus Cars or F1 may wish to know about a recent planning application to demolish the site where Lotus racing Cars began in Tottenham Lane in 1953</b></p>
<p>Planning Application No. HGY/2015/0311<a href="http://www.haringey.gov.uk/sites/haringeygovuk/files/register_of_local_listed_buildings_of_merit.pdf">http://www.haringey.gov.uk/sites/haringeygovuk/files/register_of_local_listed_buildings_of_merit.pdf</a></p>
<p>I have just submitted my own objection (below) and urge others to look at the application and make their own comments to the application</p>
<p>Objection</p>
<p>I wish to state that I object to the application to demolish existing buildings on site at 11 Tottenham Lane N8 next to what was The Railway Hotel and the original home to Colin Chapman’s Lotus Motor Car Racing Company Factory.</p>
<p>Although the address of the application is stated as 11 Tottenham Lane it does include what is listed at <a href="http://www.haringey.gov.uk/sites/haringeygovuk/files/register_of_local_listed_buildings_of_merit.pdf">http://www.haringey.gov.uk/sites/haringeygovuk/files/register_of_local_listed_buildings_of_merit.pdf</a> as No. 7 Tottenham Lane, the site of Lotus cars in the 1950s.</p>
<p>In 1984, with the agreement of Haringey Council, Club Lotus erected a memorial plaque on one of the original Lotus office buildings.</p>
<p>In 2004 Haringey Council added 7 Tottenham Lane to its Register of Local Listed Buildings.</p>
<p>Yet on the application, by a person in Yorkshire, with seemingly no local connection, interest or knowledge to demolish many buildings on this historic site (now Jewson’s Builders yard) seems to make no mention of Colin Chapman, Lotus cars, listed building status or the plaque.</p>
<p>No mention is made of plans to even relocate the plaque.</p>
<p>I am very concerned that yet again one of Hornsey’s remaining buildings of historic interest and importance will disappear with the collusion of Haringey Council’s Planning Department and Committee.</p>
<p>We are currently seeing our historic bathhouse frontage being demolished with no attempt by the council to protect it despite concerns by local residents.</p>
<p>I am particularly upset by the potential loss of this site as <i>Hornsey Village - A Walk</i> which I co-wrote was only published in August 2014 (by Hornsey Historical Society, of which I am a member) where the historic importance of the site was highlighted on page 21 as follows:-</p>
<p><i>This was originally The Railway Hotel, a country inn with a spacious tea garden, adjacent to Great Northern Railway, which opened in 1850, with Hornsey as the first station out of London. The Railway Hotel was later managed by the father of Colin Chapman who established the Lotus Engineering Company here in 1951 and developed Lotus sports cars. These motor racing, award-winning cars were built behind the pub until 1959 when the company moved to Cheshunt. A <b>plaque</b> commemorating Chapman and the Lotus Company is on the building to the right of the entrance to Jewson’s builders yard.</i></p>
<p>A photo of the plaque can be seen at <a href="http://colinchapmanmuseum.org.uk/">http://colinchapmanmuseum.org.uk/</a></p>
<p>To find that one of the featured sites will be gone in less than a year after publication is shocking.</p>
<p>I wonder if this would be allowed to happen elsewhere in the borough other than Hornsey?</p>
<p>Is the council aware that this is a locally listed building?</p>
<p>Why has the owner not been made to refer to the listed status and the plaque in the application?</p>
<p>I hope the council do not permit such desecration of our historic past and lack of respect for Colin Chapman, a man of recognised national importance.</p>
<p>I strongly object to this planning application</p> Lots more on the Lotus Beginnings in Hornsey Storytag:harringayonline.com,2008-08-20:844301:Topic:607522008-08-20T23:46:26.744ZHughhttps://harringayonline.com/profile/hjuk
Many months ago I offered an old crash helmet on this site. Coming across it again recently in the cellar, I flagged my old post in the Questions, Requests & Offers group. John D came back to me saying that he'd welcome the helmet.<br></br>
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He popped round earlier this evening and I learned that his need was for his passenger to use in a racing car he's building from the ground up on a Lotus Seven chassis.<br></br>
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Then I discovered that John has something of a passion for Lotus cars to…
Many months ago I offered an old crash helmet on this site. Coming across it again recently in the cellar, I flagged my old post in the Questions, Requests & Offers group. John D came back to me saying that he'd welcome the helmet.<br/>
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He popped round earlier this evening and I learned that his need was for his passenger to use in a racing car he's building from the ground up on a Lotus Seven chassis.<br/>
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Then I discovered that John has something of a passion for Lotus cars to the extent that he's involved in a group dedicated to the history of Lotus, <a target="_blank" href="http://www.colinchapmanmuseum.org.uk/Index.htm">The Colin Chapman Museum & Education Centre</a>. Apparently several of this group are keen to set up a museum in the old stables which acted as the first Lotus factory behind Jewsons in Tottenham Lane. Chapman's father was, I learned, the landlord of the Wishing Well, next to the stables just by Hornsey Station. (This location also has a particular - as yet to be fully untangled - resonance for Harringay, since on a spot very nearby stood a building called <a href="http://www.harringayonline.com/photo/photo/show?id=844301%3APhoto%3A60757">Harringay Farm House</a> which might have been the first Harringay Manor House. There wasn't always a railway line separating that area from this side of the tracks!).<br/>
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<a target="_blank" href="http://www.colinchapmanmuseum.org.uk/History.htm">This page</a> on the website I mention above carries The Lotus Hornsey Story. <a target="_blank" href="http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=2695092#post2695092">This second chat board site</a>, linked to on the website, has recent pictures of the old stable block as well as of the original Lotus showroom.<br/>
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If anyone has some spare cash to help get the museum established or is good at leveraging money from sponsors, or persuading Jewsons to give up the building, I'm sure that John would love to hear from you - although I must point out he hasn't asked me to say this.